Posted by [Jul] Demiurge as July RAFFLE base! [July '19]

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2019-06-30 17:42:23
Firstly, let me congratulate Fox on getting their suggestion into the game! While I would've preferred a space-themed gold, Leonids (called Demiurge) in the game is quite nice!

However, I was a bit dismayed to find out that that wonderful base does not appear to be the one that will be raffled off. According to this, it appears Fox's base (rename Demiurge) is going to be applicable while this thing is going to be the raffle:

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I feel like this is backwards. Fox's base, at least in my opinion, it's infinitely more desirable and raffle worthy than Staff's leonid (which, If Im totally honest, looks more like it could be an Interstellar/Sunset combination or just Interstellar itself but watered way, way down). Competition for the July base can be fierce and a lot of that is contingent on how desirable the base it. My suggestion is that we make Demiurge the raffle base and give Leonid the Applicator or Combo treatment.

THIS is the base worth that fierce competition:
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Compromise?



I'm not an unreasonable person (usually), and would be up for a compromise. We could make BOTH bases raffle bases and show up the majority of the time during the July raffle. Other older bases like Sunrise, Celestial, Sidereal, and Skyward would be less common. Sample roulette RNG:

35% - Demiurge
35% - Leonids
10% - Sunrise
5% - Sunset
5% - Celestial
5% - Sidereal
5% - Skyward

This would divide interest in the bases and stop them from saturating the market so quickly, which means they would hold value instead of the mad scramble we had last year with Sunrise and even before that with Sunset (there's still nearly 400 sunset kings two years later versus the 133 sunrise kings from just a year ago).



This suggestion has 21 supports and 73 NO supports.



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Edited on 23/07/19 @ 19:06:36 by a Moderator

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2019-06-30 18:25:22
I can agree to the compromise part so that both are raffle bases.

A bit unsure as to what they'd add to Tefnut's shop for a base tho lmao.



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2019-06-30 18:28:31
Heavenly?



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shenanigans (#23653)


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2019-06-30 18:33:49
Just on the front page I see some app / raffle worthy bases that could tie in. We don't really need a base applicator, anyways, but we also have the Gem: Metiorite dropped this month that could craft a base as well.



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2019-06-30 18:40:22
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*VIBRATES AT MACH SPEED*



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2019-06-30 18:41:28
Isn't Heavenly the storyline reward?



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JAX •
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2019-06-30 18:44:18
I dunno. Might be Astral mane. I mean, we really don't even a base in Tefnut's shop, imo.



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2019-06-30 18:54:08
No support. The new raffle base fits, as all the others are the various colors the night sky takes as it progresses, and the new one is reminiscent of the dusk just before sunset, all the way to sunrise. Leonids refers not to a color of the evening sky, but rather a meteor shower, makig it fit with tefnut's sjop and he meteor shard price. You are literally crftjg a meteor shower to adornbyour pelt when you buy the demiurge base.



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2019-06-30 18:57:49
Fair argument, but this isn't really about theme. Also, the base doesn't look like a meteor shower and it's not called "Leonids", it's called Demiurge. A Demiurge isn't a paltry "meteor shower".

If we're arguing theme, a base called Demiurge which LITERALLY means "creation of the universe" deserves more than being stuck in a shop.

I would love to see Apedemak's mother have the base, maybe have a Titaness lion who literally created Lioden. I'd also like to see Ape get backhanded so.



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Ely | Cocytus [G1
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2019-06-30 18:59:31
Even moresk it shiuld be with tefnut. She shook our world, and her death destoryed our world. She gets the world creation base as fanservice!



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2019-06-30 19:13:32
.... Anyway, I still think compromising would be the best solution though personally, Leonids should just be an app like divine. July Raffle bases are supposed to be noteworthy, I feel Demi has more an "awe" factor than Leonid.

A Leonid is a meteor shower; Demiurge is literally a person who creates and maintains universe. I just don't see how staff arrived at the decision to make the latter one the applicator base (especially when Leonids are meteor which is more in line with meteorites, which are craftable this year. It just makes sense for shards to make the base literally named for a meteorite and the base literally named for a god to be breed only like the other gods?)



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2019-06-30 20:12:07
Leonids looks much better than demiurge and is 100% more deserving of a raffle base. No support.



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2019-06-30 20:15:30
Strongly disagree.



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2019-07-01 06:03:53
No support for a few reasons.

1. Staff has decided that the Demiurge base belongs to one of the NPCs, and therefore put it in Tefnut's Temple because, as they've said, "he is, in a way, Tefnut's creator." I think having an NPC base something players can obtain through the event (guaranteed, not via a raffle) is fun and also a nice change.

2. I don't have a preference for either base either way, and I'm not worried about the Demiurge base being a dime a dozen. Sunset Markings, even at 2000 meteorite shards, was selling for 20+ GB earlier this year/at the end of 2018. Sure, it's a marking app vs a base, but I think it won't be as common as we're scared of it being.

And just for credit's sake, Leonid was a user suggestion that went under "minor edits" from staff.



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Edited on 01/07/19 @ 06:04:48 by Azzy (#9793)

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2019-07-01 06:09:10
Fair enough, I've been worried it'll be too common after a while but I do see the similarity with sunset markings which held their value quite well. I might be a little disappointed if it remains an applicator, but I do see the reason behind it somewhat.

I think, however, for such a special July NPC he should be a raffle base instead, much like Apedemak, Apollyon, Menhit, and Tefnut received their own in-game July raffle-only bases. As he is also a deity, he deserves the same treatment in my opinion, and the raffle bases could use a new base or two to replace more saturated and developed markets such as the market for celestial and skyward bases.



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Edited on 01/07/19 @ 06:09:45 by shenanigans - {Çɮ} (#23653)

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2019-07-01 06:18:35
Demiurge can still be raffle and have the whole thing with Tefnut. Hell, Sunset base was raffle and Tef IS a sunset, so that's not really a good reason. Might as well slap Sunset in there if that's what you're bank on and make Dawn an applicator and throw it in there too.

The God npc base should be breed only/raffle like all the other god bases.



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