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Posted by | Dilution/Silvering |
PeachKitten [CLEAN] (#10353) King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2019-07-31 11:13:23 |
Pretty much any species CAN have silvering or dilution factors to some degree. This would be a really easy mutation to add, a lot like piebald, BUT different. Genetically piebald and dilution genes aren't always linked, though in some species, namely birds, they can be. In cats and dogs piebald has nothing to do with dilution, they are on different loci. I'm not sure how extensive it should be in game, but it exists on a gradient from nearly white to lightened variations of the base color. I was thinking it could display something like: Dilution (30%) or Dilution Heavy/Medium/Light ________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Normal Non-Dilute Lion: 20% Dilution: 50% Dilution: 70% Dilution: Skin and eyes are NOT always diluted alongside the base color, though they usually are. All of the above examples have skin and eye dilution. The following example will not. 60% Dilution | No Skin/Eye Dilution: _______________________________________________________________________________________________________
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PeachKitten [CLEAN] (#10353)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2019-07-31 11:13:38 |
PeachKitten [CLEAN] (#10353)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2019-07-31 11:13:44 |
Some lions with dilution factors: 0 players like this post! Like? Edited on 31/07/19 @ 11:43:06 by PeachKitten (#10353) |
Jack | G2 Jellyfish Prion (#98461) View Forum Posts Posted on 2019-07-31 12:47:30 |
PeachKitten [CLEAN] (#10353)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2019-07-31 12:51:08 |
@Firecracker - Yeah, I think it would be a nice addition to the mutations we already have. For me pied lions can be a bit too dramatic, so this would be a nice in between. c: 0 players like this post! Like? |
deertush🍆 (#50864)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2019-07-31 13:46:55 |
I'm a little confused, dilution and leucism are not the same thing. Dilution/silvering are specific genes in domestic animals. Leucism doesn't appear in different forms(as what your percentages are suggesting). It's partial genetic failure to properly display melanin(along with other types of pigment). This is what causes your wild white lions. Harlequin patterning(only in great danes and similar breeds), is more akin to the patches that we have now. The dilution that standard merle would cause on the eumelanin of the dog is amped up to 100% and turns white. SO perhaps you mean standard merle in that regard. Would this be an overlay on top of the existing lion? All non-mutated files on site would have to be duplicated/tripled/quadrupled to do the different percentages of the mutation. That's just not feasible. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Jack | G2 Jellyfish Prion (#98461) View Forum Posts Posted on 2019-07-31 14:42:05 |
(I'm assuming overlay but I like the patched diluted anyways, which would also be an overlay prob) 0 players like this post! Like? |
PeachKitten [CLEAN] (#10353)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2019-07-31 15:42:39 |
You know, if I would have reviewed my notes before assuming I remembered everything correctly, that would have been great. xD Thank you for the clarification deertush, I've fixed the main post. Here I mean dilution. However I can say, as my parents are dog breeders: when we call a dog "harley" (harlequin) or "tweedy" that means they are merles with dilute patches/spots. If it's on a solid, bi, or tri we just call it dilute patches. I know cats can have pseudo-merling (caused by dilution), but it's not nearly as common as in dogs. 0 players like this post! Like? |
PeachKitten [CLEAN] (#10353)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2019-07-31 15:46:23 |
"Would this be an overlay on top of the existing lion? All non-mutated files on site would have to be duplicated/tripled/quadrupled to do the different percentages of the mutation. That's just not feasible." It would be a one layer overlay that comes in different capacities, just like all the markings do. I used white with a blending mode, soft light. It would go over all markings, and if eyes and skin get diluted over those two layers too, but under the linework. I did however put the dilution for the eyes on a different layer and used a different blending mode, vivid light. 0 players like this post! Like? Edited on 31/07/19 @ 15:49:10 by PeachKitten (#10353) |
deertush🍆 (#50864)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2019-07-31 15:54:28 |
Ah, I see. Tri-colored merle’s are called tweeds officially. Harlequin is a different thing and not similar. I’m just now further confused now though that you mention patches of diluted fur on merles because merleing in itself is a form of partial dilution causing patches of untouched eumelanin. Using the word dilution also makes me think of the actual dilution gene(blue/isabella) Unfortunately, blending modes like soft light(or any blending mode) wouldn’t work within the coding. Site assets are a flat PNG image and not like photoshop layers. 0 players like this post! Like? |
PeachKitten [CLEAN] (#10353)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2019-08-02 10:45:44 |
Maybe just a white overlay? I had to use blending mode to preserve the shading b/c I didn't have the ability to separate the lines from the markings and base and such? :o So merling makes it so some hairs are white and some are pigmented. Their proximity creates a lightened appearance. When a merle has lighter patches mixed in it's because the hair in those patches is lighter and still mixed with completely white strands. 0 players like this post! Like? Edited on 02/08/19 @ 10:48:02 by PeachKitten (#10353) |
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