I think being able to use sub makes might be a better idea as well,, Kinda sticking to this theme??

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Perhaps you could make your own thread suggesting that? As submales and other people's kings are very different when it comes to coding i've heard.

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@crvcible
I totally agree! But I think both kings should have to agree on it, so like it's natural! For example, some lions let the younger males mate, but only if it's beneficial!

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I like the idea in theory, but I'm not really sure how it would work in practice.

What if you have breeding items you'd like the stud to use? Both the lioness owner and the stud owner would have to agree to the breeding, and unless the stud gets a portion of the fee, he would essentially be losing energy for no personal gain. Adding in another interface to choose a separate stud, apply items to the stud, choose a fee for the stud, and attach a message to the stud request for another player's lioness just sounds clunky and very challenging for new players to understand.

As I said, a nice idea in theory, but actually thinking about how it would operate on Lioden leaves me feeling uncertain. :(

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@katze
Yeah, I get your point! I understand it may be difficult to do/understand, but @Odin could probably touch up their idea a bit to make it easier!

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That is true, guess i didn't think that far.

I just though "Well, currently you can send a PM to the stud you want to use, if they agree you send the fee for both the stud and the lioness and any items you want to use, and once the chosen stud gets the cubs they would send them too you" but that seemed a little unreliable, since they could keep any mutie produced without telling the user who payed for the whole litter.

So i just wanted to make a more reliable method, and since my mind tends to tunnelvision every so often, i guess i didn't think about the stud.

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Maybe you would also include the ID of the stud you wished to use and it would automatically up the price so that the. stud fee was included? Or the lioness could show up as your own when you go to send a request?

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I just can’t see how this could work logistically tbh. There’s the 2 fees to take into account that would need to be coded or organised somehow, 2 lots of items, and a completely separate person from either the buyer or the heat seller that you’re relying on to have energy and not breed elsewhere (deliberately or simply accidentally). Because going by the way it seems to be coded right now that would mean using up any breeding items meant for your reverse breeding on the wrong girl, if they bred to literally anyone else in the meantime.

There are so many variables and so many people, just the time constraints could be a huge headache - the last thing you want as a stud owner is to be stuck for hours or days unable to breed to your own lionesses let alone anyone else's, because you’re waiting for a certain request to be successful so you don’t use someone’s buffy balls on the wrong girl...

A neat idea in theory, but I can’t even imagine how it could be made to work in reality :(

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@ Myr, Katze

I think it might work if say, you put in king’s ID as ‘stud chosen’ and like said in the thread, if it’s left blank, it would default to your own. You’d have to pay for the stud fee as two seperate fees added, and then after you send the request, the person selling the heat could either accept or decline, and then from there (if accepted) it could be sent similar to a normal stud request message to the stud?

Also, as for items used on the male- I was going to make a suggestion where there’s a checklist for items to be used on the male (just like in stud requests) so the stud & user selling the heat are both able to give the okay if they want the items used. ^^

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I like the initial idea, which is why I supported. However, I strongly disagree with the comments above suggesting to be able to stud to submales.

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