Posted by Don't nerf female adol training

TrollBerserker[PFM]
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2020-02-20 07:21:03
Current cub/adol training is awful right now. Not only it's that only Cub training counts for stat boost, the adol training is drasticaly nerfed compared to Cub making it almost impossible to level your cub to required percentage for players that aren't able to sit on Lioden half a day.
Anyway, female Adolescent training seems to be even more impossible, with male adols gaining 2-3% progress and females only 1-2%. It doesn't seem much but having my males go to patrols the same time I have my females hunting I can see how much difference it makes.

If you're not going to improve this broken training system in any other way then can we at least have females getting the same amount of progress as males?



This suggestion has 14 supports and 14 NO supports.



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Fraekinn (#57572)


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2020-02-20 08:23:16
Females can hunt every 30 minutes, males every hour.
That is why males get more progress to females.

Females can get 2-4% training in that one hour compared to the males 1-3%



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Robin (BLM) - Gen4
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2020-02-20 08:37:44
The key word being “can.”
They can train every 30 minutes. They can get 2-4% training in 1 hour. But that doesn’t mean they do or will.
If someone were to hunt only at the same time as patrol, as OP states, then the male adol has the training advantage and he shouldn’t; it should be balanced.

Not everyone can check the game every thirty minutes every day, and the female adol training system isn’t fair to them. (And another tangent for another day/another suggestion, but bears some mentioning: adol training already isn’t fair because if you don’t do cub training but manage to get to 75-100% training bar purely from adol training, stats are nerfed because of lack of cub training)



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Fraekinn (#57572)


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2020-02-20 09:02:06
I still think its an obsolete suggestion.
Females have twice the amount of training opportunities as males, of course, not everyone can utilise it - but even at a weekend I have been able to train a single adol up by around 30-40%, thats just from 20 hunts. Plus you also have the advantage females have of being able to 'rush' the hunt with GB/SB, if stats are that important.

There is also Medlar fruit, to bring up your cub training as well as adol training, if you fall behind.
I think the game has enough failsafes in place that females training doesnt need nerfing.

Lets do some maths though, just for clarity.

So, adols can be trained over 11 days, lets say they have 20% cub training - probably generous, but lets go with it.

That means in 11 days I have to get 80%, now with 1-2% a hunt, thats 40-80 hunts.
Now of course, the odds of it coming back with 2% is probably lower, so lets go for a nice average number - 60 hunts.

60 / 11 = 5.45

So, lets round that up to 6 hunts.

Thats 6 hunts a day for every adol you wish to train, again these are averages.
Even if you hunt them every hour, you should be able to get those 6 hunts in, so I'm failing to see the issue.

ETA: Plus, females have the advantage of you being able to take two out at once - while males are limited to one an hour.

Of course, if you buy an adol with fewer days before they age up, you're going to miss out on training - but again, Medlar fruits exist for this very reason.

edit: spelling



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Edited on 20/02/20 @ 09:19:29 by Taevali (#57572)

Fraekinn (#57572)


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2020-02-20 09:26:22
Also adding onto that, male adol training is even harder.

Theres 24 hours in a day, lets assume you:

spend 8 hours asleep
spend 8 hours at college/school/work etc
spend 8 hours free time

That means, you realistically can only get in 8 patrols a day (unless your school/work is lax with mobile phone usage). Of course, not all those 8 hours are going to be available - you have your commute, your chores, your self-care, so realistically lets say you only get around 5 hours to actually be online.

Thats 5 patrols at 2-3% each - which is 10-15% a day, you're still going to need at least 8 days of 5 2% patrols.
Meanwhile in those 5 hours, you can hunt your female adols 10 times for 10-20% a day.

So, either way, its plenty balanced.



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Notalittleone (#188631)

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Posted on
2020-02-21 02:22:55
It's easier to level up females. You can hunt every 30 mins and take TWO out at a time. Males can go out once an hour and only one at a time.



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Scorbunny (#190650)

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2020-02-21 15:57:51
idk I kinda get this point, I mean, we're way more likely to have multiple adolescent lionesses that need to be trained, and more often than a male.

I only really ever need to train up a male adolescent when my king starts getting old or when I need a submale replacement (to train my heir). I can get the feeling that lionesses should be easier to train because there are more of them that need to be trained at a given time, and sometimes only being able to take 2 out isn't super helpful (and I rarely ever need to train more than one male at a time, so it's fair enough, I think)



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Bezthiel 🍉 (#81210)

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Posted on
2020-02-21 16:07:22
I obsessively train adols. Every hunter has their cub training and stats carefully tracked. All my stat replacers are treated like little princes and I'm disappointed if they get less then a 5% at training (I want that elusive 42% cub training).

Consistently, I finish female adol training before male.

It, admittedly, might be a tiny bit unbalanced if you don't get 30 hunts and 15 patrols in every roll. But you can also finish training either way.



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