Posted by Let's Revisit Grandpaws: A Much-Needed Fix

[△] Nadir (#108458)

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Posted on
2020-05-31 16:40:57
[ Support My Other Suggestions? ]

More Tail + Leg Banding Colours
Alter Stat Change to Giving Tree Cubs
Making Sub Males More Useful
New Event Title Ideas!
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✪ Summary:

Hi, remember me?

I suggested the Grandpaw addition a few years back, and while it was added, somehow the entire point of my suggestion was overlooked, resulting in dead weight and another mouth to feed. Suffice to say, I'm a little irritated that everyone was so hyped and then it was sort of, well, a buzzkill. Instead of being irritated long term, I wanna see if I can get it done right.

Let's rehash the things I actually wanted added, since the original topic has gone missing, and see if we can fix this how I originally suggested.

✪ What I Am Proposing:

[+] Making Grandpaws USEFUL

I didn't suggest Grandpaws only for them to become another useless sub-male situation, so here's what I actually had suggested Grandpaws be good for, plus a couple new ideas.

Ideas from the original suggestion:
❱❱ Grandpaws have a low chance of training with you when you visit them (playing, tusseling or grooming). This chance will provide 1 - 3 stats.
❱❱ Grandpaws have a chance to encourage a cub who has failed training to try again, resulting in successful training. This was actually added, but for some reason, it's merely flavor text and does not serve its original, intended purpose.
❱❱ Upon dying, your Grandpaw's personality type determines one of two Lion Spirit decors you will receive. If Evil or Snarky, you will receive a red, angry-looking variant of the normal Lion Spirit decor. If Good or Kind, you will receive the standard blue version. If Neutral, players have a 50/50 chance of getting either. Additionally, players have a low chance of receiving an Ancient Lion Mask decor instead of a Lion Skull.


New ideas:
❱❱ Grandpaws will be guaranteed to leave you items at roll over. Even with his age, your old man still enjoys exploring, just like you do. The list would be as follows:
- Abandoned Nest
- Any Skull
- Any 1 - 3 use Carcass (Not "Snacks")
- Snake Scent
- Catnip
- Monthly Exclusives (Except Rare Items such as Interstellar Remnants)

❱❱ Fixing the options to get rid of them:
I have seen the requests to make Grandpaws optional. Grandpaws are very easy to get rid of if you do not want them, though the current method involves hitting "Retire".

I value users having options, and that's why I'm also suggesting a toggle at the bottom of your den to disable Grandpaws outright for your pride. This also prevents you from gaining the additional benefits and items.

Addendum:
Drakine (#65247) brings up a good point. When our Kings retire, their decors are removed. Pride lionesses and sub males keep their decors when they die or are retired, and I believe Kings should do the same. I personally have had a ton of beautiful King decor setups that I was extremely sad to see get wiped from my dynasty, especially because I would have loved to preserve their themes, and would have had no issue buying new copies of the items and supporting the player market.

Edit: 1.22.2024
Allow Grandpaws to be used for Treasure Hunting. Nothing says 'retirement' like hanging up your crown and exchanging it for a pirate hat to go on adventures.

Again, the idea is to provide features which have use to them. This suggestion is about fixing the original suggestion into what I always intended it to be.

If you don't support, I'd like to know why. I appreciate constructive criticism over a simple "no".



This suggestion has 1135 supports and 5 NO supports.



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Edited on 22/01/24 @ 11:04:29 by [♰] Yharnam (#112370)

maddie🌧️ (#192859)

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Posted on
2020-06-02 04:28:03
I honestly believe this should've been done from the get go
Its nice to have your ol' man around, but the sentiment gets old fast because he doesn't contribute.
This should help encourage keeping him around, since its more of a benefit rather than just kindddd of a negative, since he takes up another mouth but with nothing to give.



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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Posted on
2020-06-02 05:12:09
Yeah, pretty much. The first half of this was included in the original post but entirely overlooked. Kind of upsetting. Thank you for your support, Fidgetangel.



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Edited on 02/06/20 @ 05:12:54 by [△] Jensen (#108458)

Ezgati~Crazy Panther
Lady~🐆 (#28391)

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Posted on
2020-06-02 05:20:25
I was soooo hyped for grandpaws... and then it was such a dissapointment.
Grandpaws need a rehaul. Support!



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maddie🌧️ (#192859)

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Posted on
2020-06-02 05:44:04
It is a little upsetting, but hopefully they get their much needed changes. No problem on that support though!



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Ama (#183150)

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Posted on
2020-06-05 03:50:40
Support! ;w;



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:3 (#123887)

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Posted on
2020-08-02 11:31:01
support! i feel like grandpaws are useless.. they're very boring to have in game and i often just retire them instead of keep them.



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Edited on 02/08/20 @ 11:32:30 by rory (#123887)

[△] Nadir (#108458)

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Posted on
2020-08-02 11:31:56
Thanks rory! Unfortunately I do the same. Hopefully they'll be made useful some day, same as sub-males.



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Drakine (#65247)

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Posted on
2020-10-02 02:47:48
I'd just like to add onto this that I'd also love if they made it so Grandpaw's apparel isn't removed when they retire. It's super annoying having a bunch of decor on a lion that gets removed upon king removal and then if you have items with zero uses left you lose that decor forever despite wanting it kept on that lion. It's super irritating.



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[△] Nadir (#108458)

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Posted on
2020-10-03 03:06:31
Drakine (#65247) :: I actually super agree, i kind of hate that. I'm gunna shove that in there because legit, i wish it stayed on him like it does dynasty ladies. I've had beautiful king decor designs that are now gone forever.



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(Clean) (LOff) (#207265)

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Posted on
2020-10-06 16:53:19
So, I don't have a "Grandpaw" and judging by my King's age, I won't get my first one for a long while. But I wanna say I completely support anything that brings in new gameplay on the lion and pride side of things, and your suggestion includes that. It's kind of how I feel about Broodmothers? I wish they had more to them as well. Other than keeping cubs safe I'm pretty disappointed that that's all they're good for.



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Eldritch g1 rl clone
(they/she (#211139)

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Posted on
2020-10-23 11:17:36
support



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Vacant (#230286)

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Posted on
2021-05-02 10:32:22
Full support, i hate that once my old boy is retired, he's useless. a complete overhaul would do wonders.



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parlaymars | ruffian (#21910)

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Posted on
2021-08-08 16:41:20
support ! i was around for your original suggestion and was hella confused when the flavor text for training appeared... but then didn't actually work as designed



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Lia (BLM) (#190815)

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Posted on
2022-03-04 14:12:06
I just retired my first king, and it warms my heart to hear about him interacting with the cubs, but it would be nice if he was more useful. For instance, maybe he could be a special sort of cub-caretaker that automatically adds stats and cub training to them on rollover? But he can only do this for three cubs?



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Selene 🌙 (#103181)

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Posted on
2022-08-20 13:38:48
Bump because I feel this needs more attention <3



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