Posted by Let's Revisit Grandpaws: A Much-Needed Fix

[△] Nadir (#108458)

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2020-05-31 16:40:57
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✪ Summary:

Hi, remember me?

I suggested the Grandpaw addition a few years back, and while it was added, somehow the entire point of my suggestion was overlooked, resulting in dead weight and another mouth to feed. Suffice to say, I'm a little irritated that everyone was so hyped and then it was sort of, well, a buzzkill. Instead of being irritated long term, I wanna see if I can get it done right.

Let's rehash the things I actually wanted added, since the original topic has gone missing, and see if we can fix this how I originally suggested.

✪ What I Am Proposing:

[+] Making Grandpaws USEFUL

I didn't suggest Grandpaws only for them to become another useless sub-male situation, so here's what I actually had suggested Grandpaws be good for, plus a couple new ideas.

Ideas from the original suggestion:
❱❱ Grandpaws have a low chance of training with you when you visit them (playing, tusseling or grooming). This chance will provide 1 - 3 stats.
❱❱ Grandpaws have a chance to encourage a cub who has failed training to try again, resulting in successful training. This was actually added, but for some reason, it's merely flavor text and does not serve its original, intended purpose.
❱❱ Upon dying, your Grandpaw's personality type determines one of two Lion Spirit decors you will receive. If Evil or Snarky, you will receive a red, angry-looking variant of the normal Lion Spirit decor. If Good or Kind, you will receive the standard blue version. If Neutral, players have a 50/50 chance of getting either. Additionally, players have a low chance of receiving an Ancient Lion Mask decor instead of a Lion Skull.


New ideas:
❱❱ Grandpaws will be guaranteed to leave you items at roll over. Even with his age, your old man still enjoys exploring, just like you do. The list would be as follows:
- Abandoned Nest
- Any Skull
- Any 1 - 3 use Carcass (Not "Snacks")
- Snake Scent
- Catnip
- Monthly Exclusives (Except Rare Items such as Interstellar Remnants)

❱❱ Fixing the options to get rid of them:
I have seen the requests to make Grandpaws optional. Grandpaws are very easy to get rid of if you do not want them, though the current method involves hitting "Retire".

I value users having options, and that's why I'm also suggesting a toggle at the bottom of your den to disable Grandpaws outright for your pride. This also prevents you from gaining the additional benefits and items.

Addendum:
Drakine (#65247) brings up a good point. When our Kings retire, their decors are removed. Pride lionesses and sub males keep their decors when they die or are retired, and I believe Kings should do the same. I personally have had a ton of beautiful King decor setups that I was extremely sad to see get wiped from my dynasty, especially because I would have loved to preserve their themes, and would have had no issue buying new copies of the items and supporting the player market.

Edit: 1.22.2024
Allow Grandpaws to be used for Treasure Hunting. Nothing says 'retirement' like hanging up your crown and exchanging it for a pirate hat to go on adventures.

Again, the idea is to provide features which have use to them. This suggestion is about fixing the original suggestion into what I always intended it to be.

If you don't support, I'd like to know why. I appreciate constructive criticism over a simple "no".



This suggestion has 1135 supports and 5 NO supports.



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Edited on 22/01/24 @ 11:04:29 by [♰] Yharnam (#112370)

[♰] Yharnam (#112370)

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Posted on
2022-11-09 00:49:54
Updated the 'Grandpaws Death Rewards' section:
"Upon dying, your Grandpaw's personality type determines one of two Lion Spirit decors you will receive. If Evil or Snarky, you will receive a red, angry-looking variant of the normal Lion Spirit decor. If Good or Kind, you will receive the standard blue version. If Neutral, players have a 50/50 chance of getting either. Additionally, players have a low chance of receiving an Ancient Lion Mask decor instead of a Lion Skull."

This is simpler and doesn't require the existing method to retire Grandpaws to be re-coded.



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Fiery Lioness (#298660)

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Posted on
2022-11-29 21:21:36
I support, although I have a suggestion for the grandpaw’s departure. Maybe instead of the personality affecting the spirit decor, it could be the karma. What do you think?



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[♰] Yharnam (#112370)

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Posted on
2022-11-29 21:24:29
Fiery Lioness: Also a good idea. ^^ Could go either way. I'll add that.



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Quit (#412633)

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Posted on
2024-01-02 20:21:51
PLEASE I need this! I get super attached to my kings, and its kinda sad to see them become practically useless, undecorated lions that add another anchor to my sinking ship of a pride. Its kinda annoying to think about my current queen, beautifully decorated and lab frogged, become a regular shabby lion with no real flavor



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[♰] Yharnam (#112370)

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Posted on
2024-01-22 11:07:22
Almost four years later, and Grandpaws are still useless and haven't been fixed.

EDIT ADDED: Allow Grandpaws to be used for Treasure Hunting.



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Catherine of Aragon (#215326)

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Posted on
2024-05-24 08:07:38
That treasure hunting suggestion genuinely made me go "aww!" out loud. Yes please!



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[♰] Yharnam (#112370)

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Posted on
2024-05-24 09:49:32
Thank you so much! I'm glad you liked it XD



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WheelJack (#430107)

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Posted on
2024-06-21 14:50:19
I really support this, I'm a big transformers fan Wheeljack being my favorite. I had a king named KnockOut but retired him when I realized he was just another mouth to feed. He was so beautiful too. If this had been in play along time ago he would have lived out his Virtual life in the pride from the get go.



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