Thank you! This has been driving me crazy!

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As much as I agree with the fact it'd be nicer to have it be anatomically correct... it just feels like a lot of unnecessary and pointless work for Xylax.

Considering how many suggestions are being made toward new decors, poses, bases, etc. fixing the placement of the tongue on a couple of snakes you'll see for 30 days once a year just seems so pointless to me. I can see how it gets bothersome, but in my opinion it's not at all worth the trouble.

As an artist, it's not as easy as you might think to just move a part of an illustration. A lot of cover up work will need to be done in order to make it blend properly and look nice and finished. It's a waste of time in my opinion.

Sorry, no support.

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Everything I want to say, Zoe said very well.

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People said the same thing about the pawpads on the rabbits for April and those still got corrected. I'm not saying this has to be done urgently, just pointing it out for future reference. Xylax has been going over event encounters throughout development. There's really no reason he can't touch a few snakes up while he's also touching up things anyway. I'm also an artist, I know it's not as easy as people think but I figured if these encounters will likely get updated in the future anyway, why not just point this out?

If event encounters weren't being touched up then that's one thing. However, they are actively being worked on as the game updates and the older art gets more outdated anyway. All I'm doing is pointing out that these could use touching up as well.

Edit: There actually used to be a thread where people could submit encounters they thought could use updating but I can't seem to find it anymore. Had I found it I would have posted it there, but it seems to be lost.

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There also comes the factor that the overall artstyle has developed and improved a lot! Xylax's art skills have most definitely improved. Looking at the two snakes you showed as reference, both are entirely different in how they're shaded, lined, colored, and highlighted. Believe it or not, replicating an old art style can be incredibly difficult- and for what? The re-placement of a tongue?

Moving the tongue involves a lot more than erasing/re-illustrating one section such as a foot for a pawpad, etc. The tongues in the illustrations physically go over the mouth and the body... but even moving it or erasing some inside of the mouth to fix a minor anatomical mistake seems like such a waste of time. Though I do respect your appreciation for snakes... it's just a lot of unnecessary work to put on someone. Yes, they COULD be touched up, but honestly...? I don't see these snakes enough times a year to really care... and I doubt I'm the only one.

The snakes are most definitely mythical, but the average lioden player will not really see much fault in the illustrations and the placements of the tongue... changing this wouldn't have any positive nor negative impact on the game. In fact, I doubt most would even notice it.

I respect your points, but I'm sorry, still no support.

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Like I'd say more, but Zoe, you're far more eloquently making the points and I have no way to really add to that, just to say that I agree.

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I'm not trying to change your mind about supporting. I'm simply stating that minor changes like this have been fixed in the past. Your points could be made about the rabbit pads too. It's a minor feature but those were also corrected as well. So I'm just a little confused on how this is any different? I don't mean to say this has to be fixed now, maybe I worded it a bit funky. My apologies if so.

Like I said there was even once a thread were people could post art they thought could use touching up, and sure enough, they often were. Really the only one who can say if this is "too much work" is Xy himself in the end. The same applies for coding suggestions and the like. The only ones who can really say that with any certainty something is a lot of work for them to do, are the people in question themselves.

Anyway, I respect your views and I see where you're coming from too and I don't intend to come off as aggressive or anything. I just saw no real issue with pointing this out either in the event that Xy does want to correct it.

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There's no issue and I found no aggression! Don't worry.

With a foot, looking at the bottom of it it's a very flat surface- so the shading there's typically a lot simpler. Adding or removing something so simple is very different than redrawing the tongue inside the mouth.

Anatomically, no, the tongue's placement isn't correct, but because Xylax would need to physically re-draw and attempt to reillustrate these snakes to fix some tongue placement would be very difficult- especially on the older snake models, since he'd need to attempt to re-create an older style he's much improved from. Looking at the black and the bronze snake, it's easy to tell which one's a more recent illustration and which ones not.

I disagree with this from an artists perspective. Although it would be nice to have things anatomically correct, I don't see it drastically improving any gameplay compared to several other suggestions. I do appreciate your levelheaded responses though. This was a nice discussion, even if we had disagreements! Stay safe, have a good night.

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basically this is a fix it if you have time? yea those things squick me out for other reasons...

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something else with slithering carnage - the spikes randomly change direction about 1/4 the way down the neck. follow the direction through

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