Posted by [Feb/Mar] Unknown Heritage Studs in the Event

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Posted on
2022-07-07 04:27:28
I'm really enjoying the maneaters as I'm really enjoying breeding low gen / heritageless animals, but it made me think - how come these are only around once per year? Correct me if I'm wrong, I've been on a two year hiatus!

But what if these studs were added for the February event - it is Valentines after all then!

EDIT BASED ON FEEDBACK: Or, as an alternative, add them to the March anti-poaching event when there are fewer features currently in place and less valuable event items?

This would allow for new breeding projects and challenges, for example, unknown sire breeding!

These could work similarly to the maneater studs with a random daily male to breed with OR they could otherwise appear randomly in explore as a mid-chance encounter and you could allow one in-heat female to breed with him if found.

EDIT BASED ON FEEDBACK: Based on feedback which suggests people don't want to have to spend lots of currency on a studding and wanted something that wasn't just a copy of the Maneaters and to keep the cubs more valuable and less common, this might work best as a mid-low chance explore encounter - if you stumbled across an unknown stud as an explore encounter, you could have an option to breed one of your in heat lionesses there and then to an unknown stud

This would allow a roughly 150-180 day gap between the end of the August event and the start of the February event, which would equate to around 12 (or 15 based on the edit) years - in other words, it would allow every lioness no matter when she's born the chance to breed with an unknown male once in her life without having to freeze her for half a year! Plus, it would allow August and Feb/March born cubs to breed with another unknown sire, rather than freezing them.

Presumably, the designs for the studs would probably be more charming and suave than the maneater studs of August if implemented in February. The studs could have a mixture of current event bases and perhaps one new breed-only base rather than adding in a new base applicator to the shops, since there are already 39 February apps and 20 march apps.

Potential benefits
- Adds a new explore encounter or feature, especially to March which often needs more love
- Allows a new form of breeding: unknown heritage sires
- Allows unknown-sired cubs born in August to breed to new unknown NPC studs without having to freeze them for half a year
- Would make new March bases rarer (current March bases are often very cheap year-round)
- Provides an immediate covering rather than waiting around for a player
- Makes clean breeding easier without having to go through heritage
- Provides an easier way for new players to get into breeding valuable bases without having to grind for event currency
- Bases/markings/manes/etc are presumably already in the works anyway
- Is only twice a year so would still be rare and presumably could have a high lock requirement so it didn't open until half way through the month/etc
- Wouldn't compete with groupies as is not focused on G1/heritageless specifically

Reasons raised for against
- Gen1 lions are already common
- February/March are applicator-focused not breed only
- February items are expensive - why waste funds on this? (Could be overcome if an explore encounter)
- February has enough on (March may be a better suit)
- Extra coding for a new feature
- Does not support traditional non-clean breeders
- No story attached to them (could be added but would be a lot more work)



This suggestion has 79 supports and 14 NO supports.



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Edited on 10/01/23 @ 17:24:13 by a Moderator

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Posted on
2022-08-09 07:36:23
Coding and implementing new event ideas are not the same - they would likely have to overhaul the event page to make it more streamlined for this new objective , and it's another feature on top of an already feature-heavy event , just because they can reuse a little bit of code doesn't necessarily make that any easier .

Edit: There are already so many features and objectives in February that it adds just one more thing to keep track of , the name of the event is flirting and slapping and mayyybe you could make studs work into that ? But I don't think your lion would be too happy about outside lions mating with your females considering they're already so pressed about just flirting with them



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Edited on 09/08/22 @ 07:39:04 by 🏳️‍🌈 Solarah (#101607)

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2022-08-09 07:37:05
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the February event doesn't have any BO bases. And that's the point of the maneaters - to introduce new BO bases and BO markings. Asking the devs to create a whole new set of BO bases, out of nowhere for an event that previously didn't have any, seems like a lot to ask when they are already working on so much.

I'm also a bit confused - you say clean breeding is a needless project because it has no effect on the game, but the whole point of this suggestion is so you could continue to breed low gen lions, so I don't quite understand that bit.



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2022-08-09 07:37:08
Also @Solarah, is your main objection because it's in the February event rather than March? Freezing for a month is possible but a lot of people won't necessarily want to, especially if playing during February for scrotes and yohimbes.

I realise it would be a new feature, but it wouldn't have to be a complete overhaul - just an extra link at the bottom of the event page to February studs, for example. Compared to the July event that now has countless features including a brand new explore mode, it doesn't seem that big of a change with half a year in advance, and it would be nice to have plenty to do! But if not and it could be added in March to make the March event a little more involved, that would work - just not quite as seamlessly for breeding a Maneater cub.



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Edited on 09/08/22 @ 07:43:59 by Dier ~ Gen1 ~ x6 Ros ~ 3K (#80015)

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2022-08-09 07:39:51
@Luppiter What I mean is, you said it's needless, but clean breeding is also needless as it doesn't give any in-game effect. It's just an optional challenge some people like to play, which is this sort of concept - a new challenge for unknown stud breeding.

Also, when I say about a new base (for example), it could just be instead of releasing a new base or marking applicator, since there are already seven base apps in the February event shop and they seem to release around one per year



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Edited on 09/08/22 @ 07:40:23 by Dier ~ Gen1 ~ x6 Ros ~ 3K (#80015)

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2022-08-09 07:42:45
My point is the February event doesn't really need studs, yeah. March ? Yeah I could see it , but it doesn't work with the Feb event . See my previous post's edit for that)

In my personally opinion, I don't necessarily think any event needs a feature like the August studs. They're meant to be August exclusives, that's part of their appeal to me



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2022-08-09 07:45:06
I still just don't see the point. If you want heritageless sires, then freeze your lionesses on a side account until August comes back around. That is a challenge within itself.

Again, asking the devs to implement this new feature into the February event seems a little strenuous, considering how much they are already working on. February is arguably the most popular event on Lioden - why make changes to it? And I also do not agree that we should have studs that are similar to maneaters during the only other event that you could get buffies from - which would require some people to sacrifice getting buffies in order to breed to these studs, which a lot of people already do in August. We don't need to repeat that in February.

And you could argue that the Maneater studs in February wouldn't require any event currency, but all heritageless lions require currency - whether that be the Maneater studs in August or the groupies in May.

Again, this just seems pretty pointless.



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Posted on
2022-08-09 07:45:33
@Solarah - I edited my reply a little too. That's fair enough - they would be unique February/March studs still, so that shouldn't be an issue. I'm not saying to necessarily repeat the bases twice a year but just the concept of an unknown stud

I'll add your suggestion to the main topic



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2022-08-09 07:46:54
@Luppiter Would you be more inclined to agree with Solarah's thought that these would be better suited in March when there are fewer features? Freezing an account for half a year just to extend a lioness's life enough is a challenge but almost gets to the point of being unfeasible for many people.



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2022-08-09 07:50:02
Completely with Luppiter , and you actually made this point yourself - February has Buffies, Lion Scrotes, and Yohimbe Barks . A BO base is worth nothing compared to the outside event resale value . They would have to be non heart shell studs (free, sb, or they would need to implement a new event currency) and that doesn't seem worth it imo



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2022-08-09 07:51:16
I mean, Solarah said that it would better suit March, but they still said that they don't agree with the suggestion as a whole (i.e. "i don't necessarily think any event needs a feature like the August studs. They're meant to be August exclusive...")

And I agree with them on that. August studs are looked forward to every year because they introduce new BO bases and new BO markings into the game. We don't need to add that anywhere else, especially during one of Lioden's most popular events and an event where you can already get heritageless males.



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2022-08-09 07:51:42
@Solarah - That's fair enough! I've added in the alternative March suggestion to the main topic since March apps are lower value usually - I'd still personally prefer February but March could work, even if not the ideal for studding to Maneater cubs



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2022-08-09 07:52:34
Agreeing with Luppiter again but would like to note - heritageless males are May , not March <3



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2022-08-09 07:53:35
Yes, my fault Solarah! Got the two mixed up - either way, February nor March are events with BO bases. It wouldn't really make any sense to introduce heritageless studs in either of those months who possess applicator bases.



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Posted on
2022-08-09 07:53:47
@Luppiter They also said it wasn't necessarily a bad idea, rather the timing was off. These studs It wouldn't just be the same as August's man eaters, but that's fine if you don't agree. Everyone has their own opinion, I just don't see how this would do any harm as a new way to play the game and keep things changing



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Posted on
2022-08-09 07:55:57
@Luppiter Considering there are 39 applicator bases in the February event and 20 in the March event already though, might it be nice for something a little different? At least I think so.



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Edited on 09/08/22 @ 07:57:32 by Dier ~ Gen1 ~ x6 Ros ~ 3K (#80015)







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