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🏳️‍🌈 Sol
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Posted on
2022-10-01 14:27:19



COMPSCI STUDENT VS CHIMERA



hello and welcome to my newest thread, a compsci student vs. the chimera

if you couldn't tell by the title, i'm a computer science major* and obsessed with chimera animals. this mutation idea has been suggested many times and shot down due to coding logistics and such, but here i am, attempting to solve these problems so that maybe, just maybe, i can have a two faced lion.
besides, at this point i'm really looking for anything to do except my problem set and in an ideal world i could use this as my capstone project lmao

*i say kind of because computer science is a part of a mechatronic systems degree. technically i have to do software engineering courses, but a good majority of those classes are, well, computer science classes. plus i took ap computer science a in high school . so i would say i'm mildly qualified to do this

note to mods & devs: i will be making mutation roll and lion generation emulators specifically for this project. i couldn't find anything against this in the ToS but if this isn't allowed, i completely understand and will find another way to do this project. i will not be releasing this code for download to the general public out of respect for the lioden developer's time designing it themselves


wait, solarah, what even is a chimera?

good question! no , in this case chimera is not referring to the snake lion monster from mythology. from wikipedia:
"A genetic chimerism or chimera is a single organism composed of cells with more than one distinct genotype. In animals, this means an individual derived from two or more zygotes, which can include possessing blood cells of different blood types, subtle variations in form (phenotype) and, if the zygotes were of differing sexes, then even the possession of both female and male sex organs (this is just one of many different phenomena that may result in intersex conditions). Animal chimeras are produced by the merger of two (or more) embryos."
thanks wikipedia !

you've probably seen pictures of Venus, the two-faced cat, before:

from this National Geographic Article
Venus is a genetic chimera!

but what does this mean for lioden ? two lions smushed into one lineart, basically. because i'm a little bit lazy and have a tendency to cut corners (+ the fact that i haven't downloaded photoshop onto my new laptop yet), these are not my images
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(from this thread by Katerade [x4 Rosette Sunset] (#149381), discussing verbal logistics but not coding logistics)



wow, this would be so cool ! why hasn't it been implemented?

many, many, reasons
logistically it's a coding nightmare. from Xylax himself,
"The issue is that it would require two sets of lion information: Two bases, set of markings each, separate eye colours etc. Sounds like a very serious problem when coding the information - the extra tables have to be coded there, but not show up in normal lions. It is VERY difficult to do that."

there are obviously many, many more problems, and i'm asking you guys, the lioden community, to criticize the chimera idea. every possible problem you can think of, throw it at me. i'll compile a list of what i feel are the most important problems to address, and then address them. i want to see this mutation happen but the devs already have so much on their plate, might as well give them a little break :)

from Golden Girl (#14752),
"But how would items factor in? For instance this month we have crunchy worms. Since it doesn't copy mutations, what set of "genes" would it snag to 'duplicate'? Same for items that pass down a select marking/mane. Would those work or just not be usable on chimeras?"


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Edited on 02/10/22 @ 08:26:31 by 🏳️‍🌈 Solarah (#101607)

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Edited on 02/10/22 @ 08:26:47 by 🏳️‍🌈 Solarah (#101607)

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Posted on
2022-10-01 14:34:07
I don`t actually know anything about coding. But how would items factor in?
For instance this month we have crunchy worms. Since it doesn`t copy mutations, what set of "genes" would it snag to 'duplicate'? Same for items that pass down a select marking/mane. Would those work or just not be usable on chimeras?



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2022-10-01 14:34:12
thank you !



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Edited on 01/10/22 @ 14:36:40 by 🏳️‍🌈 Solarah (#101607)

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Posted on
2022-10-02 11:00:54
i presume chimeras would be an incredibly rare mutie, akin to double uterus in rarity, so i'd say being able to use crunchies, ochres, and gnaws would make sense.

maybe a dropdown to choose which set of genes to use them on, just like gnaws let you pick the marking? and if a crunchy and lionball trigger on the same cub, it should clone the mother as a whole.

if the gene sets can mix on individual cubs, a lowered lionball success % so the bo marking & rosette market wont crash.




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