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2023-03-27 21:29:55
Hiya. I was looking through the old raffle lionesses on Wiki and one caught my eye. Searched for any clones of the July 5th 2019 one but there aren't any. The raffle lioness is still 2 years 2 months old. The player seems to have gone on a long hiatus.

Apocalyptica already has the base and eyes. I'm thinking about recreating the lioness with my queen.

Apocalyptica's link
Raffle lioness link

Raffle lioness appearance slots as of 3/27/23:
S1: Brown Crackle - 2/2 kings rolled this month & 169 pride members with quite a few either inactive or haven't rolled this month

S2: White Inverted Zebra - 70 kings & 3,799 pride members

S3: Vitiligo 6 - 7/10 kings rolled this month & 621 pride members

S4: Dark Brown Margay - 7/12 kings rolled this month & 1,021 pride members.

S5: Feline 8 Dark Brown - 0 kings & only the raffle lioness

S6: Cream Inverted Quagga - 4/8 kings rolled this month & 228 pride members with many inactive or haven't rolled this month.

S7: White Limb Patch - 1/6 kings rolled this month & 337 pride members with many inactive or haven't rolled this month.

S8: Brown Pelage - 3/3 kings rolled this month & 144 pride members with a fair number of them rolled this month.

S9: White Soft Unders - 1/3 kings rolled this month & 426 pride members with many inactive or haven't rolled over this month

Slot 10: Shell Underfelt - 33 kings & 2,254 pride members.

What do y'all think? If I decide to do this I'm going to need some help.

To follow my progress here's the cave I'll be using



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Edited on 28/03/23 @ 00:00:41 by LunarKnight - G2 Heavy Pie! (#151072)

๐ŸŽ„โ›„ leon (#208511)


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2023-03-27 21:32:24
RMAs definitely are NOT the way to go to get a specific marking. I've spent over 3000gb on RMAs and haven't seen a lick of my favorite RMA exclusive, let alone any breed-only markings.



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2023-03-27 21:32:39
Link to original raffle lioness and your queen? I like this idea! :)

I agree on the RMA thing tho, it'd be easier to just find a look alike lion or at least the same markings



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Edited on 27/03/23 @ 21:34:37 by Morrígra ๐ŸŒ™ (Cinder) (#33027)

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2023-03-27 21:44:02
@leon ๐Ÿ”ฎ (#208511)
I haven't searched all of them yet but some of the slots are rare. Breeding a look alike of this particular raffle lioness will be difficult. I think it's worth a try with RMAs. Who knows, luck might be on Apocalyptica's side. You never know until you try. ^_^

@Morrรญgra ๐ŸŒ™(Cinder) (#33027)
I've thought about that. Not all the slots are easy to breed though due to their low numbers. Then there's the base issue.



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2023-03-27 22:10:36
I finished my search. Here's what I've discovered:

S1: Brown Crackle - 2/2 kings rolled this month & 169 pride members with quite a few either inactive or haven't rolled this month

S2: White Inverted Zebra - 70 kings & 3,799 pride members

S3: Vitiligo 6 - 7/10 kings rolled this month & 621 pride members

S4: Dark Brown Margay - 7/12 kings rolled this month & 1,021 pride members.

S5: Feline 8 Dark Brown - 0 kings & only the raffle lioness

S6: Cream Inverted Quagga - 4/8 kings rolled this month & 228 pride members with many inactive or haven't rolled this month.

S7: White Limb Patch - 1/6 kings rolled this month & 337 pride members with many inactive or haven't rolled this month.

S8: Brown Pelage - 3/3 kings rolled this month & 144 pride members with a fair number of them rolled this month.

S9: White Soft Unders - 1/3 kings rolled this month & 426 pride members with many inactive or haven't rolled over this month

Slot 10: Shell Underfelt - 33 kings & 2,254 pride members.



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Edited on 27/03/23 @ 22:13:21 by LunarKnight - G2 Heavy Pie! (#151072)

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2023-03-27 22:11:52
I've done two RMA projects... You can try but it's absolutely not worth it. It will be statistically near impossible to get the right marking in the right slot, for MULTIPLE slots. It's a 0.5% chance for a tier 2 period, and then it pulls from all possible breed only markings. RMAing is absolutely soul crushing. I am on my hands and knees for you to not do this, lol. I don't want you to dump all that money into RMAs when it'll be nigh impossible.

I can't get one marking I'm sort of looking for, and it's a 5% chance to roll. The 0.5% chance to pull a tier 2 marking period is gruelling. I've gone 600gb without anything at all.

So please... you'll keep your sanity a lot better just trying to breed, lol.



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Edited on 27/03/23 @ 22:12:08 by leon ๐Ÿ”ฎ (#208511)

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2023-03-27 22:18:29
this is my little RMA project I have on my side I'm well aware of the chances. Half of the marks are either difficult to find lionesses to breed or impossible. At this point I'm on the fence about this because of that.



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๐ŸŽ„โ›„ leon (#208511)


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2023-03-27 22:24:04
I have two full breed only ones, with some rosettes. It's very painful lol ๐Ÿ˜ญ

Aside from the feline 8 dark brown, I think all of the others seem perfectly fine. I'm doing a breeding project myself and started with slots with only around 20 lionesses and no king. You just need to get your hands on one.

I started with lionesses each with the marking I needed. I bought more common slots that were for sale on TC and otherwise contacted players with rarer slots offering to buy any cubs with the slot. Again, I only started with one of each slot.

I've been breeding on each marking, quickly at first then slowly. It sucks, but it's possible! I'm just focusing on keeping the mane and markings right now. I'll breed on the base, eyes, and skin once I get all the markings.

Projects of most kinds are in fact grueling.



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๐Ÿ—ก๏ธ LunarKnight (#151072)


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2023-03-27 22:30:42
2?! Wow. You got my respect!

Ah ok. Thanks for the tips. I'll try that out. Slot 5 I'll definitely have to RMA so it'll be last. Lol.

Probably obvious but this is my first time trying for a specific look. I feel like a fish out of water. Lol.



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๐ŸŽ„โ›„ leon (#208511)


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2023-03-27 22:35:22
By the time you get to it, it might be on another raffle lioness or have been RMAd on by someone else! It might be worth checking the raffle lioness attribute request thread to see if it's been asked for again.

Other people go about their projects in different ways. Some people start with every main traitโ€”base, eyes, mane, and skinโ€”and only king steps with those traits AND a new marking, or they do more like me, starting with a marking and mane and building up in that way.

I recommend trying to keep the mane on since I hear it's hard to breed back in, but I don't think that's a concern of yours!

I'm not familiar with pearl, but if you go through with this, you'll definitely want to invest in whatever apps there may be. Unfortunately for cinnabar, that is... very limited and expensive, but hopefully for Pearl it's a little more inclusive!



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Edited on 27/03/23 @ 22:36:09 by leon ๐Ÿ”ฎ (#208511)

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2023-03-27 22:45:27
You got a good point. I'll definitely check it out. Maybe stalk the forum and look occasionally if not.

I'll probably do markings first and work my way up the difficulty. Base will probably be last for me too. Mediums are a pain to breed. The mane type is thick so for that I just need a mane changer once I get everything else locked in. I've been mass breeding for pearl for quite awhile and have yet to breed one with a Pearl mane. Is it random or do the mane genetics need to match up too?

I think there's at lest 1 app that shares the same exact genetics as pearl. Maybe 2 even.



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2023-03-27 22:50:04
Ah, I believe you need a parent to have the mane color to pass it down, unfortunately. I don't think the mane color genetics are all that complicated, just one of the parent's.

One of the markings can be applied in November, so that lessens a little bit of the pain, if you're willing to wait.

It's good that there are apps! Obviously, you want to save them for your final breeders, when you've got all the markings and traits that you need.



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Edited on 27/03/23 @ 22:50:31 by leon ๐Ÿ”ฎ (#208511)

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2023-03-27 23:00:14
Oh ok. That makes sense.

Really? I'll have to look onto that! Depending on where I'm at by then I could put it on Apocalyptica. ^_^

Definitely. I'll probably end up hoarding as many apps as I can. Lol.

Just bought a cub with s7! yay!



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2023-03-27 23:58:08
Moved this to the breeding project forum since I think it belongs there instead of the watering hole



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Posted on
2023-04-20 13:36:48
Hi! I've got a RLC breeding project and I see we both need a slot 1 Brown Crackle. I currently have one Lioness with slot 1 Brown Crackle in my pride, so If I get any fail cubs from her which still have Brown Crackle marking, would you like to take them?



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2023-04-22 11:15:40
@๐ŸŒธ Sparky โ€ขG1 Dorsal ๐ŸŒธ (#251802)
Hiya. I would really appreciate that! talked to one of the players with a king who has it and they gave me 2 S1 Brown Crackle cubs. They rarely roll him so I was ecstatic.




Project update
2 of my project girls had their first litters. Both single cubs. 1 cub was a dud and the other only had 1 desired mark so half fail.

Side notes
It'd be nice if lions existed with more than I desired mark on them already. This'll be a long project. I might make a separate thread so I can keep track.



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