🦎EliWazzHere :: I modify and tweak these suggestions as I go, based on user input that I feel is fair, as it helps me refine them.

I felt that "poop me" in names is fair, because its free and not considered an asset, but gifts are.

Hope this helps.

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Well yeah- i mean thats kinda what i said lol

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Cool, so it's been modified. Thanks.

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I’ll be honest, I don’t understand the no support for the keyword suggestions as a replacement for advertising in your username? It sounds to me like it would be exactly the same but with the option to search for certain keywords *if* you want to. If you don’t want to type additional things into the keyword field, then that’s fine. Don’t do it and you can browse all of the lions and see all of the info from their keywords as you currently would see in their usernames…. But if you wanted to filter for “g1,g2” you could do that as well.

What’s objectionable?

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That was kind of my confusion. It'd be a better system, that let you put way more keywords in there, and hide it if you don't wanna see it.

It feels like it boils down to players knowing they get free advertising by talking in main chat, and not wanting that taken away. That's the only reason I can possibly come up with for why a better system wouldn't be wanted. Wolvden has keyword search, category search and so many useful filters.

Give us Wolvden's Generation Search feature and this would be a non-issue entirely. If we get Gen Search before this, I'd be interested in seeing if the tune changes.

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My only issue (which has been mentioned before in comments, so i wont go in depth) is the pooping and gifting. I dont think that is begging. It is just you stating your preference.

Other than that I agree with everything else! I have this issue in my discord and most defiantly in lioden!

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TYSM Hyena <3 Yeah. I kinda wish during Christmas, they'd instead let users pick an icon to put on their profile that'd also display in chat. Maybe that way it could also be searchable.

Search in general could use an overhaul.

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That is actually a very good idea! I would def support that! maybe a poop emoji and a gift emoji!

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Support.
I would love to see many of those things disappear. I honestly despise the fact that putting the info about my king is pretty much the only way to let people know that my king might serve their purposes when they are in search. Having a better search + not allowed any subtle ads or veiled begging, be it in names or in main (dud or stud, your examples, etc.) would be amazing. Also putting the paperclip challenge into the veiled begging, because let's face it, on games like this it is just that, since all people need is put some time into the game to get a lot. like me getting 6k sb in two days in past week to get my lions back without saying a single word in chat about them running or what amount I need

As for the December event - it would be great if there was a site-wide alternative, like an icon or extra bolded text in the gifting area where our preference would be seen.

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I very much agree with Veiled Begging.

Although, the Display Name thing isn't an issue to me.

I do not go to peoples "user den" everytime I see people talk in chat. Not everyone puts advertisements or goals in their user, but I think it does more good than bad. Goals in users can help the user themself remember the goal because they'll see it each time they comment/post something and it can help them keep motivated.

The stud information in users has even helped me in the past as when im scrolling looking for specific studs sometimes I'll see the username of someone who posted like a trade ad and see that their studs minimum info from their user is actually what im looking for. It's not directly advertising it, it helps inform people of what their lion is.

I dont see it as a problem.

If I were to suggest an addition I'd say this (this is just my opinion):

Have 2 sections for display names:
— Username (Your actual name/display name)
— Pronouns/Goals/Other (An optional addon to your display name to post other information)

Having it in 2 different formats can make it so individual users can disable the "other" part of the display name so you only see people's users instead.

Example:
Your Display Name
User— Fox
Optional— [They/it]

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Goals can be posted in your profile. That's what most users do, even.

The bit about stud information confirms that the advertising is working as intended.

RE: Locating Studs: I'll direct to this section in the main body of my original post since it matches what you've said:

Additionally, since the only argument against enforcing display names to be void of stud advertisements that I have seen is that it "helps locate studs", I have created this suggestion for users to provide customizable, searchable keywords for their studs and lions in their bios.

Link to "Searchable Stud & Lion Keywords in Bio" Suggestion

The optional add-on you've posted here feels like it's made in good faith but would just enable even more extensive advertisements. That said, customizable pronouns is another suggestion a user has made elsewhere that I support heartily.

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You have honestly really thought through this and i honestly will now be completely supporting this thread because the searchable stud + lion keywords suggestion would be perfect.

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Thank you for understanding. Ultimately, I'm not looking to step on anyone's toes, I just think it's a loophole people are exploiting. I try to submit well-thought out QoL changes.

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I can get on board with the veiled begging aspect of the suggestion pretty easily. Sure, some people will see specification as a normal way of them speaking and that's fine. There are people who really do have no ill intent, but it does come off at least a little suspicious. If you're randomly coming into chat and saying exactly what you need while complaining you might not make it in time for rollover or that it has gone on for "oh, so long", that's pretty obvious in most circumstances. I think the vast majority of people are self aware enough to know, at the bare minimum, how that looks. Regardless, using the examples provided as part of a clarification to rules could certainly clarify the difference between someone lamenting over a problem ("Ugh, I forgot to feed my pride and now I have to try to get the SB to get them back") and veiling their begging ("Ugh, I forgot to feed my pride and now I have to try to get 3,000 SB to get them back"). They read very differently.

As for stud qualities in display names, I don't really see a huge issue with them. I do think they can get hard to read in chat specifically, so having that be separated from the main display name like Mad Hyena suggested would be a fairly simplistic fix. However, I do see your points in some regards and, for that reason, I give only conditional support for removing stud qualities from display names: the addition of the searchable tagging system must be implemented first or alongside the rule change, not after.

This is to preserve the convenience that currently lies in having this information readily available in the name for search purposes. It is pretty often that I will look for low generation, RLC, and similar studs using the User Search function due to that being more broadly (and sometimes specifically) convenient to search for in those instances. Most people aren't putting tags in their kings' names, and I don't think they should have to just because the search function is not helpful for certain searches. This is absolutely a stud search problem at its core and it should have additional options, but this change should be left alone until a better addition is made (such as the customizable tags) so as to not hinder the current convenience it provides.

TLDR: I understand stud qualities in names can be annoying, but I don't want a massive convenience for me to be removed without something else added to take its place at the same time. Overall, I added my support but it is only conditional for stud qualities in names. I think the suggestion has an understandable argument, and one that has no reason to be ignored if we get searchable tags. As for the rest, veiled begging is still begging. With examples added, I think it can be very easy to follow.

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I have no idea what the paperclip challenge is, so I am not going to include that as part of my begging argument at this time. I did also forget to mention that I like the added idea of being able to click something that will let you view all keywords used in a king's listing in search. I could get more at-a-glance details that might be more along the lines of what I want but it isn't a necessary option as far as I am concerned.

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