Posted by New Genetics Rarity Label - EXCLUSIVE [+121/-6]

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Posted on
2023-07-12 07:02:39

not here to make this look pretty bc this is kind of simple.

Basically, it would be a fifth genetics rarity category. I recommend calling it Exclusive, just to keep confusion from happening with any other label, but other names that could work are Distinctive, Applicator, Exceptional, or Limited. How would Exclusive be implemented? What would it do, and why do we need it? I'm so glad you asked!

The 'Special' genetics category is extremely bloated, with 54.7% of all bases in game being 'Special' bases. Of these Special bases, a whopping 61.8% of them are applicators, meaning 110 of our 178 Special bases are currently applicators. This means that telling users which bases are breed-only and which are applicable can get very confusing, as they share a genetics label that's extremely bloated.
That's where Exclusive comes in. Exclusive would be the Uncommon to Special's Rare, and made entirely of applicator bases. All future applicators would go into the Exclusive category, and all future BO bases would go into Special, including, but not limited to: Combo Bases and Raffle Bases. If Exclusive is implemented, no base would have its actual color group, shade, or gradient label changed, it would just be moved to Exclusive.

In addition, Exclusive would keep the exact same pass rates as Special, since I mentioned earlier it would be exactly like the divide between Uncommon and Rare, which have the same pass rates, just different labels due to Uncommons being applicable and Rares being breed-only. This means the game will have no mechanical changes if Exclusive is added, it would just change the name of the rarity label.

The reason I think this is needed is exactly as I said earlier, the Special category is bloated and confusing for new players. Since a majority of bases in game are 'special' it means that there really is nothing special about these bases, other than their low pass rates. Separating it would make it more clear which bases are applicable vs breed-only, and would also make it easier for new players to understand the genetics system. The new rarities would be as follows:
- Common
- Uncommon
- Rare
- Special
- Exclusive

Before ending this thread, here's a quick little tl;dr:
PASS RATES WILL NOT CHANGE, Exclusive is the same as Uncommon is to Rare, where they have the exact same pass rates and just vary on a label. Exclusive would be made only to make the Special category look less bloated, and all apps would be moved to it.

Let me know what you guys think! If you no support, feel free to let me know why. Thank you for reading!

Also, because I like it, the icon for the wiki would be a gold/yellow 'E'

EDIT 10/20: I actually want to keep BO bases special, so a new name for this tier was included, Applicator. I would prefer Applicator to be the name of the tier, honestly, but I'm sick and don't feel like going through the whole thing to change it. But Applicator would be the preferred name.




This suggestion has 207 supports and 10 NO supports.



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Edited on 20/10/23 @ 12:51:20 by jester [#1 recode fan] โ˜˜๏ธ (#187561)

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Posted on
2023-07-12 07:04:38
Please can we do this omg



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Posted on
2023-07-12 07:36:31
I feel like Exclusive sounds more like it should be the Breed Only Special category. Breed only, to me, sounds like an exclusive term on its own. It's exclusive to only being available through breeding.



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Posted on
2023-07-12 07:41:44
Special was what all the BO bases including the rares were called as far back as 2014, though. The only applicator in the game was i think Inferno and Ethereal and so 'special' symbolized the old BO specials i.e. Pearl and Lilac. It's easier to stick to the traditional title.



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jester [im autistic]
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Posted on
2023-07-12 07:42:49
I'm open to it being either way! When I asked while making the suggestion, though, a lot of my friends said they preferred if BO bases would stay special, while a new category was made for apps. The rationale behind Exclusive was the bases are exclusively obtained through apps, while BO bases can be obtained in a variety of different ways, like the Raffle bases, Combos, or Event BO bases.



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Posted on
2023-07-12 07:53:23
I'd be happy with a separation regardless - my brain just likes it better the way I described x) In all honest, I'd even like combo bases to be another category entirely as well, though that may be controversial. I just find it hard to remember a couple of combo bases off-hand without glancing at the wiki, and I think it'd be helpful for newer players who want to breed a combo base without knowing right away that it's a combo. I'd imagine at least a few people spent time and money breeding to a Majivu stud for example, but weren't actually aware they needed specific bases beforehand.

Sorry, that was off topic lol! I just thought of it after reading your reply :P



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Posted on
2023-07-12 07:59:18
I agree Terrinthia, I feel like Breed-Only bases make more sense labeled as Exclusive, which sounds more coveted than Special. Certain base apps can be a dime a dozen and that kind of waters down the "Exclusive" category name in my opinion. But I also agree that a separation per jester's suggestion is absolutely needed.

Regarding Combos, I would even be okay with just even having a (C) next to category name to denote the combo. ie, Black Dark Countershaded Special (C) or Black Dark Countershaded Exclusive (C)



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jester [im autistic]
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Posted on
2023-07-12 08:07:31
I could swap Exclusive and Special's places in the suggestion? I'm also not very sure though, I was going to go with something like unusual or unique, but I worried that would be too confusing as we already have uncommon that starts with 'U', and a lot of lioden players aren't known for reading things too closely, just look at how it takes 3 pages for the newsposts to get any sort of commentary behind 'OMG NEWSSSS'

I'm honestly just glad most people seem to agree on the separation being needed, at the end of the day what they end up calling it or how they end up ordering it doesn't really matter too much to me, I just hope we get it lol.



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2023-07-12 08:20:04
lioden players aren't known for reading things too closely, just look at how it takes 3 pages for the newsposts to get any sort of commentary behind 'OMG NEWSSSS'
It do be like that.

Honestly while I have my preference I am fine either way, they just really ought to be separated and I appreciate the thought put into the suggestion! I also think Unique is a great alternative on its own for applicator bases, Uncommon confusion be damned :)



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Terrinthia [G1,
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Posted on
2023-07-12 08:23:01
News post comes out and I'll see at least 10 forum posts on Game Help that refers to something mentioned and explained within that News post :x I don't go on main chat often, but I'll see plenty of questions there as well if I pop in. [I saw a player with (read the news) in their username responding to a lot of those questions with "read the news" - super funny!]

I do agree that it shouldn't start with 'U', as many players name or footnote their lions with the genetics abbreviation like RLSC or GDCU, so it would become confusing if 'U' could mean 'uncommon' or 'unique'.



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Posted on
2023-07-12 08:24:59
i'd suggest combo get its own category, but with the beginning letter thing... probably not a great idea LOL



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Posted on
2023-07-12 19:30:14
YES YES YES.



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EntityofSilo | G4 (#107570)

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Posted on
2023-07-16 17:48:55
Name the new category Deluxe, like that one question in Lioden Trivia

Support! & since the original Special bases were all breed-only and the new category is for all the apps, maybe even just call the new category Applicator?



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Posted on
2023-09-18 01:07:19
I would say switch exclusive and special. Cause exclusive is already implemented for NCLs Dhahabi, Mobola, Maziwa, and Asali in the wiki. The only way to get the bases is by breeding to a lion with that base. Applicators can be kept in special, as they are special to the events but aren't *exclusive* to them (as they can be bought later on in the year through TC/raffles/branch).

Exclusive, Adjective
restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned. (Rescrited/limited to breeding)

Special, Adjective
better, greater, or otherwise different from what is usual. (Greater than uncommon/common bases)

But I'd definitely say add a 5th rarity. It'll clean up the game and help newer/older players out too



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Posted on
2023-10-20 12:53:58
support, but i think bo should be exclusive and applicators can be special



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Posted on
2023-10-20 12:57:08
update on the rarities: i actually want the tier to just be straight up called applicator now, looking back, but i am sick and don't feel like changing the whole paragraph right at this moment. i will update it as soon as i no longer feel like straight garbage.



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