Posted by Mutation: Underbite (800+ SUPPORTS!)

๐ŸŽฉFancy fork ๐Ÿด (#427147)

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2023-08-31 14:46:24
Cats can have an underbite, so their lower jaw is slightly extended out showing their bottom teeth! It should be only a small/mild underbite that can act kind of like an amp since in cats, the underbite is mild in kittens and gets worse as they get older. the idea is the underbite will develop from birth, only being a bit visible then getting more pronounced as it ages, since the fangs are failing to be aligned correctly. This could affect the cub's life span due to it having difficulty eating, so it'd be similar to blind/deaf mutated lions.
I suggest the lion could die around 4-5 years since the underbite would've gotten worse, making it near impossible to eat and giving it jaw discomfort.

[EDIT]
tp back up the semi-lethal idea, I did some research on the effect of underbites :3 please know this was just some google searches and I still love ideas

-"Misaligned teeth may dig into surrounding gum tissue or palate, or rub up against other teeth. Eating can be painful in these circumstances. In severe cases, a misaligned canine tooth can create an oronasal fistula, or an opening that leads into the nasal cavity, though this is rare."

-"Pets with a slight underbite are often at an increased risk for dental disease due to exposed teeth and overcrowding."



Concept art (how the underbite looks isnt really decided yet):
(ART MADE BY PussyDestroyer037(flis๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ) (#290579))



(Art made by ๐ง๐จ๐ฌ๐ซ๐š๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฌ ๐“† ๐“†Ÿ ๐“†ž ๐“†)


Could literally beat Apollyon

[EDITED PART DUE TO FEEDBACK]
"No support for it being inheritable really since only a select few mutations are, and none similar that I can think of are passable like this in-game, but I like the rest of the idea!
Even if a mutation is genetic irl, Lioden tends to stray from that to keep the rarity intact." -Leon. thank you for explaining why you dont support. I understand that pretty much so im gonna make it so its non passable without the use of lion scrots, is that better?


Feel free to critisize or make suggestions! and PLEASE tell me why you dont/do support!

Recordings of supports: (how many supports do we need-)
200 supports, lets GO.
280 supports, we're so close to 300
300 SUPPORTS
400 SUPPORTSSQAWEF (add the big chin lions mods or else >:[)
500 SUPPORTS! Half of 1000!, this is good
it got to 600 WITHOUT ME NOTICING?
YAY 700!


Flavour text ideas:

[CUB NAME] is trying to tussle with some other cubs, but they cant seem to get a grip with their mutated fangs!

[CUB NAME] looks particularly mad at you. But you can't really take them seriously because of the way their little teeth stick out from their maw as they glare at you grumpily.

You notice [CUB NAME] sitting down staring at the ground sulkily. You ask them what happened, and they said another cub had been teasing them, and said they look stupid. Aww. You reassure them that they look very clever, and their bottom teeth make them look STRONG!

[Cub] keeps biting the older cubs and trying to bonk them with their chin. Is that allowed?

You go to check on [cub] only confined them staring down a zebra leg and licking their muzzle longingly.

You wake up to [Cub] asking if you could chew their food for them. Ew. You somehow agree because... who could say no to that face?

[New ones:3]

You walk over to check on [lion] and see them furiously whacking a young tree with their paws! They seem to want to compensate for their lack of biting skills, and are working on building leg muscles. Maybe you can direct them to that egg yolk guy.

You're woken up by [lion] for the third night in a row. They're complaining about sore teeth again.. you want to send them away, but the look on their pained face is too much to bear.


[Possible death messages IF lion dies early?]

[Lion] is going around offering their food to pridemates! You ask them about it later and they say chewing hurts their jaw too much, so they just won't eat. Uh oh.

-

Don't have any more ideas :(


(After training)
Success:
You are surprised to see that [Cub] actually got the best of their opponent. They say that they bonked the other cub with their huge chin until they quit. Hmm.

Failure:
After watching [Cub] get beat up by the other cub, you console them by giving them their favorite food. Well, after chewing it for them.
(Thanks rainstorm)

(Flavour text ideas from starflesh)
Edited:
-Anon is trying to tussle with some other cubs, but they always seem to slip out of her grasp!

-Anon looks particularly mad at you. But you can't really take her seriously when sheโ€™s pouting like that.

New:
You notice Anon staring down a stick, when you approach her she grumbles about not being able to grab it.



I only edited two because the others were good not saying that the ones I edited are bad I just think they couldโ€™ve been touched up

(other flavour text ideas from other lovely people)
As you look across the savanna, you see [Lioness] trying to hunt an antelope. She can't seem to get a good grip, and the prey escapes. You console [Lioness] later by hunting it for her.

Birth message?

As you look at [Mom name]'s cubs in delight, you notice one of them can't seem to get a lot of milk in his/her mouth. That's not good.

Suggested ideas:
Maybe it has a small-to-medium debuff in the strength or stamina stats since a lion w/ an underbite would have more trouble biting and holding onto stuff?
- creech

I like the idea. Maybe it could be a mutation that is like an offshoot/fail mutation from breeding Primals? They've all got funky jaws (compared to a standard lion anyway) and it could be a "Well you didn't get a primal but this kid with a primal parent has a goofy jaw now." Sort of deal. -laemiri


-Ash (Here bc of
Ashe) (#453371)-

Maybe it could have a specific issue where it gets more hungry than other lions, since they can't eat well? Like instead of their hunger dropping by 10%, it'd be like 15% or smth?

Rejected ideas for this mut:
Underbites are a genetic trait in cats, so it COULD be a passable mutation with around 5% chance of passing to offspring?
-reason for rejection:
Not many natural passable muties


Check out my other suggestions!
Bangs mane suggestion



This suggestion has 876 supports and 25 NO supports.



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Edited on 26/09/24 @ 18:07:25 by ๐ŸŽฉFancy fork ๐Ÿด (#427147)

rinwren (#422901)

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Posted on
2023-08-31 14:47:52
AHH I LOV E THE FLAVOR TEXT



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๐ŸŽ„โ›„ leon (#208511)


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2023-08-31 14:58:41
No support for it being inheritable really since only a select few mutations are, and none similar that I can think of are passable like this in-game, but I like the rest of the idea!

Even if a mutation is genetic irl, Lioden tends to stray from that to keep the rarity intact. How well that works is debatable, but!



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rinwren (#422901)

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Posted on
2023-08-31 15:06:38
oh good point, but everything else on here is AWESOME. It seems like you've thought it out



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๐ŸŽฉFancy fork ๐Ÿด (#427147)

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2023-08-31 15:06:41
@Leon thanks for explaining, I updated the main thread



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Edited on 31/08/23 @ 15:06:54 by Fork of THUNDER [+FANCY] (#427147)

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Posted on
2023-08-31 17:09:33
Can I suggest a few flavor texts?

You wake up to [Cub] asking if you could chew their food for them. Ew. You somehow agree because... who could say no to that face?

(After training)
Success:
You are surprised to see that [Cub] actually got the best of their opponent. They say that they bonked the other cub with their huge chin until they quit. Hmm.

Failure:
After watching [Cub] get beat up by the other cub, you console them by giving them their favorite food. Well, after chewing it for them.



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๐ŸŽฉFancy fork ๐Ÿด (#427147)

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2023-09-01 10:00:47
Looking for someone to do art of it- or at least help me figure out how to put an image of a cat with an underbite on the thread.



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Posted on
2023-09-01 16:55:16
I think this would be super cute! support



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Posted on
2023-09-01 19:12:12
@fork

i would but i suck at art lmao



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Posted on
2023-09-01 19:14:44
40th support is it ok if i draw this its an amazing idea and I need it



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๐ŸŽฉFancy fork ๐Ÿด (#427147)

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2023-09-02 03:57:26
@ari of course! Do I have perms to put the drawing on the thread?



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Posted on
2023-09-02 08:36:15
yees



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Attem (#169289)

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Posted on
2023-09-02 10:52:18
I have a bit of an overbite, so having this be a thing in game would be kind of relatable. I shall hit that support button.



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Posted on
2023-09-03 17:34:19
Support no support for lethal mutation, BUT support for it being passable, I can see a lineage of underbite or overtime lions living in a pride ( even some overbite/underbite kings



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Posted on
2023-09-03 17:38:31
I'm going to just make a bunch of flavor texts bc I'm bored-

As you look across the savanna, you see [Lioness] trying to hunt an antelope. She can't seem to get a good grip, and the prey escapes. You console [Lioness] later by hunting it for her.

Birth message?

As you look at [Mom name]'s cubs in delight, you notice one of them can't seem to get a lot of milk in his/her mouth. That's not good.



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kreech (#430477)

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Posted on
2023-09-03 17:44:47
Maybe it has a small-to-medium debuff in the strength or stamina stats since a lion w/ an underbite would have more trouble biting and holding onto stuff?




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