Posted by Mutation: Underbite (800+ SUPPORTS!)

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Posted on
2023-08-31 14:46:24
Cats can have an underbite, so their lower jaw is slightly extended out showing their bottom teeth! It should be only a small/mild underbite that can act kind of like an amp since in cats, the underbite is mild in kittens and gets worse as they get older. the idea is the underbite will develop from birth, only being a bit visible then getting more pronounced as it ages, since the fangs are failing to be aligned correctly. This could affect the cub's life span due to it having difficulty eating, so it'd be similar to blind/deaf mutated lions.
I suggest the lion could die around 4-5 years since the underbite would've gotten worse, making it near impossible to eat and giving it jaw discomfort.

[EDIT]
tp back up the semi-lethal idea, I did some research on the effect of underbites :3 please know this was just some google searches and I still love ideas

-"Misaligned teeth may dig into surrounding gum tissue or palate, or rub up against other teeth. Eating can be painful in these circumstances. In severe cases, a misaligned canine tooth can create an oronasal fistula, or an opening that leads into the nasal cavity, though this is rare."

-"Pets with a slight underbite are often at an increased risk for dental disease due to exposed teeth and overcrowding."



Concept art (how the underbite looks isnt really decided yet):
(ART MADE BY PussyDestroyer037(flis🏳️‍🌈) (#290579))



(Art made by 𝐧𝐨𝐬𝐫𝐚𝐦𝐮𝐬 𓆝 𓆟 𓆞 𓆝)


Could literally beat Apollyon

[EDITED PART DUE TO FEEDBACK]
"No support for it being inheritable really since only a select few mutations are, and none similar that I can think of are passable like this in-game, but I like the rest of the idea!
Even if a mutation is genetic irl, Lioden tends to stray from that to keep the rarity intact." -Leon. thank you for explaining why you dont support. I understand that pretty much so im gonna make it so its non passable without the use of lion scrots, is that better?


Feel free to critisize or make suggestions! and PLEASE tell me why you dont/do support!

Recordings of supports: (how many supports do we need-)
200 supports, lets GO.
280 supports, we're so close to 300
300 SUPPORTS
400 SUPPORTSSQAWEF (add the big chin lions mods or else >:[)
500 SUPPORTS! Half of 1000!, this is good
it got to 600 WITHOUT ME NOTICING?
YAY 700!


Flavour text ideas:

[CUB NAME] is trying to tussle with some other cubs, but they cant seem to get a grip with their mutated fangs!

[CUB NAME] looks particularly mad at you. But you can't really take them seriously because of the way their little teeth stick out from their maw as they glare at you grumpily.

You notice [CUB NAME] sitting down staring at the ground sulkily. You ask them what happened, and they said another cub had been teasing them, and said they look stupid. Aww. You reassure them that they look very clever, and their bottom teeth make them look STRONG!

[Cub] keeps biting the older cubs and trying to bonk them with their chin. Is that allowed?

You go to check on [cub] only confined them staring down a zebra leg and licking their muzzle longingly.

You wake up to [Cub] asking if you could chew their food for them. Ew. You somehow agree because... who could say no to that face?

[New ones:3]

You walk over to check on [lion] and see them furiously whacking a young tree with their paws! They seem to want to compensate for their lack of biting skills, and are working on building leg muscles. Maybe you can direct them to that egg yolk guy.

You're woken up by [lion] for the third night in a row. They're complaining about sore teeth again.. you want to send them away, but the look on their pained face is too much to bear.


[Possible death messages IF lion dies early?]

[Lion] is going around offering their food to pridemates! You ask them about it later and they say chewing hurts their jaw too much, so they just won't eat. Uh oh.

-

Don't have any more ideas :(


(After training)
Success:
You are surprised to see that [Cub] actually got the best of their opponent. They say that they bonked the other cub with their huge chin until they quit. Hmm.

Failure:
After watching [Cub] get beat up by the other cub, you console them by giving them their favorite food. Well, after chewing it for them.
(Thanks rainstorm)

(Flavour text ideas from starflesh)
Edited:
-Anon is trying to tussle with some other cubs, but they always seem to slip out of her grasp!

-Anon looks particularly mad at you. But you can't really take her seriously when she’s pouting like that.

New:
You notice Anon staring down a stick, when you approach her she grumbles about not being able to grab it.



I only edited two because the others were good not saying that the ones I edited are bad I just think they could’ve been touched up

(other flavour text ideas from other lovely people)
As you look across the savanna, you see [Lioness] trying to hunt an antelope. She can't seem to get a good grip, and the prey escapes. You console [Lioness] later by hunting it for her.

Birth message?

As you look at [Mom name]'s cubs in delight, you notice one of them can't seem to get a lot of milk in his/her mouth. That's not good.

Suggested ideas:
Maybe it has a small-to-medium debuff in the strength or stamina stats since a lion w/ an underbite would have more trouble biting and holding onto stuff?
- creech

I like the idea. Maybe it could be a mutation that is like an offshoot/fail mutation from breeding Primals? They've all got funky jaws (compared to a standard lion anyway) and it could be a "Well you didn't get a primal but this kid with a primal parent has a goofy jaw now." Sort of deal. -laemiri


-Ash (Here bc of
Ashe) (#453371)-

Maybe it could have a specific issue where it gets more hungry than other lions, since they can't eat well? Like instead of their hunger dropping by 10%, it'd be like 15% or smth?

Rejected ideas for this mut:
Underbites are a genetic trait in cats, so it COULD be a passable mutation with around 5% chance of passing to offspring?
-reason for rejection:
Not many natural passable muties


Check out my other suggestions!
Bangs mane suggestion



This suggestion has 876 supports and 25 NO supports.



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Edited on 26/09/24 @ 18:07:25 by 🎩Fancy fork 🍴 (#427147)

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Posted on
2024-02-07 10:12:13
Ooo I like but i wish it wouldnt die so early



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Posted on
2024-02-08 09:16:13
500 supports!

@Tweek

Fair fair, I'm not sure what to do with that since there's only a few other opinions on it
I agree with you though



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Posted on
2024-02-08 10:04:44
Yeah, I mean It makes total since.. perhaps it could be one where it can randomly affect?
but then again i dont think that'd be too good either



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Posted on
2024-02-08 18:30:49
I love this and need it because it looks just like my irl dog



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Posted on
2024-02-09 14:54:57
Apollyon chin



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Posted on
2024-02-09 19:39:31
Perhaps if the lion would live for abo 6-7 years than it would be more accepted

Here are some reasons I support

1: I have a dog with an underbite

2: Animals like this are beautiful

3:


Things that could be changed

A flatter more pushed in upper nose area

Technically they could have a fighting boost because of the way their jaw can grab on to flesh with a longer grip and tear more off

I suggest looking into information about bulldogs as most of them have a similar underbite and research on an English sport called Bull Baiting




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Posted on
2024-02-14 16:00:26
I adore this yessss make this a thing :D



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Posted on
2024-02-15 07:31:22
Yooo, What if there were diffrent variations of underbites??
Like okay, so
v1: The two teeth just show, like og teeth but under (I knew a dog like that) dosent affect anything really

v2: The whole bottom row shows, but they're not able to like hide it? dosent affect their health in any way yet

v3: Their chins are more out (Like the current one) maybe makes it a little harder to eat, they can fight well but eating is hard for them

v4: Same as v3 except maybe their nose is a little pushed up? (going off another suggestion here) this would be th e worst one, it makes it hard to breath as a cub (like a pug yk?) and maybe their chins are really out, so there's a gap from their lip this makes it hardest to eat as they aren't able to chew as well, it could be painful because they can snag their teeth on something, but its good for hunting/fighting??

Idk im tired and bored and having fun with life
Also they'd be all diffrent! Like Pie/Patches, its diffrent variations :>



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Edited on 15/02/24 @ 07:32:16 by ❄Tweek Tweak❄[They/Them] (#410569)

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Posted on
2024-02-21 14:57:18
Bumps
Financially



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Posted on
2024-02-21 14:59:16
@Tweak
That's actually
An amazing idea
I love that
I don't think there are any mutations with different versions/levels? Might be weird to code, but I don't know anything about coding it could be doable in the span of a microsecond

Who knows


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Posted on
2024-03-22 09:39:53
bumping for the Apollyon clones



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Posted on
2024-05-25 07:30:17
came back after months and didn't notice this has 600 supports



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Posted on
2024-06-03 05:13:23
love it want it need it, will kill for it



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Posted on
2024-06-09 15:06:28
Mmm bumps

face bumps
like a chin
a chin this lion will have

if you support



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Posted on
2024-07-24 06:38:59
we're 5 votes away from 700



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