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Posted by | Raffle Lionesses and their bases |
![]() Terrinthia [G1] (#97101) ![]() View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2024-02-16 15:15:14 |
![]() Alright, with the release of the 12th Haze RL (I counted 11 last Haze when I thought about how many Hazes I've seen), I became curious about how it compares to the rest of the RL selection. So I've combed through the archives of every Raffle Lioness released since 2013 and tallied up all of the special bases and how many of each currently exist. This took a fair bit of time LOL, there was a total of 285 special bases (excluding the applicator based Inferno and Hematite from 2014-15) to sift through. I maaaay have miscounted somewhere, so feel free to point out any mistakes and I'll double check! In terms of breed-only specials (and ordered from earliest release to latest), we have: So, our top 5 most common bases are as follows: Sepia - 29 Pearl - 26 Lilac - 19 Orchid - 18 Haze - 12 I wasn't around for the releases before September 2016, so I wasn't aware of all of the Sepias and Pearls that we have! Though, in my defense, many of them aren't really around anymore ^^; They along with Lilac must have been the only special bases to pull from back then. And once Orchid released in mid-2018, the base was released pretty frequently, getting released on 9 RLs within the next year. Granted, that can be partially attributed to the total pool of BO special bases being rather small at the time. Since I hadn't bothered to count them before now, I was a bit surprised by the number of Citrines there are, as well as Madagascars and Olives. And there were a LOT of Bushveld releases compared to other bases released at a similar time. I'm guessing that was because Bushveld was pretty unique among BO bases as essentially the only truly green BO base (Olive is close, though!) and so it should get a decent amount of new lines introduced, to have some variety. It's a bit of a pity seeing some older bases with a pitifully small amount of RLs. I suppose some of those bases are rather boring - at least when looked at next to some newer, more popular base releases - such as Qahir or Black Rose. I think Cairngorm (with 3 RLs) is a much prettier base than Arabica (with 6 RLs), but I'll admit that that's just an opinion :D Cloudburst, which had 3 RLs released since 2018, had its rarity updated along with Smog (3) and Nadir (4) from "Common" to "Special" in accordance with the Special Base Pass Rates update in June 2022. Smog had 2 of its RL releases happen after the change, Nadir has had 1, but Cloudburst hasn't had any (latest was April 8 2022, 2 months before the update) which is kind of a bummer. Month-restricted combo bases, as of late, tend to not release outside of their respective months. Temporal's first RL was actually released in March, outside of its restricted month of October, and there are a couple Pulsar RLs that were released in June and December of 2020. Could we maybe get some more of that sort of thing? I know of at least a few people that were very disappointed to not receive a new Temporal RL in October 2023, and while the Witch one was stunning, it did leave some Temporal fans a bit upset. Since 2021, they've only been released during their special breeding month, so now players have come to expect that if a RL with the base they want isn't released during the month that year, they probably have to wait another year. Kind of lame. Overall, I think it'd be great to see a few more of the lesser-seen special bases pop up on RLs! Ukame was released in 2020 and only has 2 RLs, the last of which was released over 2 years ago at the end of January 2022. As a result, many of the few Ukame studs have a lot of the same features from those RLs. Elysian is a popular combo base released at the end of 2018, yet it only has 3 RLs. I know there are an assload of bases, so some are bound to get neglected, but when you see multiple of one base release in one year and have to wait over 2 years between Bandit RLs, being a fan of underrated bases becomes not very fun x) Thank you for reading, and please feel free to share your own thoughts below! ![]() |
ππ leon (g1 full BO ukame) (#211229) View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2024-02-16 15:26:21 |
Me. I was one of those critically disappointed about no new Temporal in 2023. It is a top 3 base for me, so very sad considering I'm not HUGE on witch. Why not both? Also... ukame!! Please? I would honestly love to see another sepia, I don't know that I've seen one in a bit though I have a bad memory. ![]() |
Fraekinn [Cons Cimm Ocey] (#57572) View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2024-02-16 15:28:07 |
God thank you for posting this Terr. I was really sad that the new RL this week wasn't pink for valentines! ![]() |
Terrinthia [G1] (#97101)
![]() View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2024-02-16 15:32:47 |
Leon - The last Sepia was June 9 2023, so a little while! I was super surprised that we have so many, as for me it's a pretty forgettable base ^^; Would love to see a nice dark Sepia for the next one. Something with a nice, striking appearance! ![]() |
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caracal π| poison lover (#343802) ![]() View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2024-02-16 15:33:51 |
Fraekinn [Cons Cimm Ocey] (#57572) View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2024-02-16 15:36:01 |
ππ leon (g1 full BO ukame) (#211229) View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2024-02-16 15:36:10 |
That's more recent than I thought tbh! I'd just like more attention in general given to more obscure bases like you said. Last used years ago or just underused. I get that the raffle lionesses probably need to be somewhat cohesive and appealing but more than anything they need to have shiny new/rare/uncommon traits to spread sobs haze is doing fine ![]() |
ππ leon (g1 full BO ukame) (#211229) View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2024-02-16 15:36:59 |
i have dedicated two real years of my life to ukame rma and breeding projects i argue that i am the #1 fan /lh ![]() |
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caracal π| poison lover (#343802) ![]() View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2024-02-16 15:38:56 |
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Eros View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2024-02-16 15:39:27 |
Terrinthia [G1] (#97101)
![]() View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2024-02-16 15:40:59 |
Theoretically, any base could have any marking scheme and work as a design, I think. The December 29 2023 Mistletoe had a ton of Lilac markings, which would ordinarily be unusual on green, but it worked fairly well. A bit strange, maybe, and not for everyone, but she wasn't butt ugly. ![]() ![]() |
ππ leon (g1 full BO ukame) (#211229) View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2024-02-16 15:41:01 |
concord made a natural double rosette AND a natural quad rosette before he passed his base....... they're just mean petition for evil looking ukame raffle lioness ![]() |
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caracal π| poison lover (#343802) ![]() View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2024-02-16 15:42:20 |
my next king is hopefully gonna be a ukame ferus rlc... if my heats work ![]() |
snowmew [G1 14BO Abyssinian] (#63212) View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2024-02-16 16:58:01 |
I think this issue comes down to two things; One designer and community demand Katze being the only input of RL designs in recent years means that the designs are limited. There is only so much creativity one person can exhibit. And it's clear that Katze has some visions that end up "samey" hence the abundance of some bases over others. Some bases are liked by the community much more than others. Groupie and savage stud bases go completely undesirable outside of the months. Many older recolor combos suffer the same fate. There is the argument that RLs play specifically into this demand for certain bases, but nonetheless some are more popular than others. I really do wish some bases got some more love! ![]() Edited on 16/02/24 @ 16:58:41 by snowmew [G1 14BO Abyssinian] (#63212) |
Equagga|G2 Vagabond Splash (#105402) ![]() Punk View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2024-02-16 18:18:24 |
Would like to see the NCL exclusive specials removed from the pool, tbh. I kinda miss when the RLs were Just Raffle Bases, even though it meant they came in only three colors ![]() (I will agree that new RLs made with the OG raffle bases all look kinda samey, though, and not in a way I'm real keen on, but honestly the RLs have never been designed the way I design lions. 100% opacity or bust, if it looks bad at 100% then the design goes in the scrap heap.) ![]() |
Terrinthia [G1] (#97101)
![]() View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2024-02-16 18:25:22 |
That's a fair opinion! I really like variety, so I'm just happy to see a ton of different bases pop up :) Sometimes a really nice, unique RL design can breathe some more life into a base again! ![]() |
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