That is a market problem, not a game mechanic problem. Someone could make insanely dirty lions popular and abolish clean breeding in the next five years.
If there is no problem with it in terms of game mechanic, then there is no need to implement any type of filter. Play styles should stay play styles, and not be pushed to breed a certain way or another.

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While Inbreeding has no in-game mechanical effects, due to clean breeding absolutely destroying the market for dirty lions on this site, I'd argue it's important knowledge for newbies to be aware of.

I support such a warning, not only for my own purposes, but for others.

It's well and good and all to tell a newbie that inbreeding doesn't affect in-game mechanics. But we should be very transparent with them, that it will likely destroy their projects' worth to the community at large. Lions are typically considered worthless when inbred by a large percentage of buyers on here.

Make it a toggle. The site needs more optional account features.

Regardless of whether or not a feature is useful for all of us, for some of us, this could be very useful.

Like me. Ask me how I accidentally destroyed one of my king's lineages while tired on her last heat. don't ask me, I'll cry

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Personally, it feels morally wrong in inbreed a lion. And having this option would be extremely helpful in my opinion! Especially if you're someone like me that also feels it's morally wrong to do so.

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I'd def support a toggle because it's widely useful for so many reasons. From clean projects, to reasons like Robin's, to being a first warning for new players. And making it a toggle means that when we have to mash kings with their daughters and cry and sob while trying to get base+marks+manes to pass, we can turn it off to avoid the warning, then turn it back on when we need it.

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Yes! The toggle is a great idea! Just because some people may not use it doesn't mean that it isn't helpful to other people. Some people have moral reasons like mine to want clean lions. It just makes me feel morally better not to accidentally inbreed my lions. Having a toggle like this would absolutely take away that fear of accidentally doing it while tired.

It would also help if instead of going back however many generations to see if there was inbreeding to just tell us outright when we look into the heritage the first time. I don't want to go all the way back to the 7th set of great grandparents to see if the lion was inbred. It's a hassle. It would just be more helpful.

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Honestly if they were able to copy over WD's inbreeding notifier that'd help.

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Thank you for all the support I thought I would remind everyone that this message only shows up when you're about to breed with a Relative it doesn't show up for every single lion

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I agree with people suggesting that it should be an account option/toggle. But maybe go a step further; I suggest that it be opt-in (aka the toggle would be off by default), which I think would make it unobtrusive (and more tolerable I guess?) to people who either don't care or don't want it.

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I agree with above post, it should be off by default and only turned on if you would want it. If it is on by default, I would be against this idea. Also agree with snowmew

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P l e a s e. It takes so long to click through heritage on longer gen lions that the value on them is lower even if they're clean because of what a hassle it can be to breed them. If this could check the full heritage of each lion against the other's- not just the first five generations like we can easily do ourselves- then you could assure a clean cub with one click, and long generation lions would no longer have lower value except to people who like how tidy short heritages look.* I feel the majority of people just don't like the hassle, myself included- my long gen girls almost always go to G1 studs at this point. With this, if I found a stud for one I was sure I liked for her looks-wise, I could just submit the request and cancel if the warning popped up.

*I don't think this would affect the baseline value of short gen lionesses or G1 studs, just raise the floor for long gens. The appeal of short gen/G1 lions is they can be bred to the majority of lions without even risking the inbreeding, so even with a 'this breeding will result in inbred cubs, do you wish to proceed?' warning removing the need to fine comb heritages, they'll still be worth breeding. Win-win imo!

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interesting idea but not sure how feasible it is for long gen lions

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personally, I'm a firm believer that any feature which could result in swaying the market to be more favorable to an optional game mechanic (clean/dirty lions) is a bad idea. if we have an alert if someone is about to breed relative lions, it's going to show that there is an aspect of the site that wants to discourage you from doing so (that's the entire point of the notification, after all). I have zero issues with people choosing to breed clean lions, but I do have an issue with an account feature, even toggleable and off by default, that encourages it. it would be the equivalent of a feature that alerts you if you're about to breed to a common-based lion because the site wants you to breed rare and special bases - it's clearly intended to sway the market, and it will only sink the value further of those lions that the site is attempting to discourage you from breeding. if you're concerned about breeding relatives, have an identification system within your pride to tell which lions are of which lineage

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@entomology,
I GREATLY disagree. While clean/dirty breeding has no effect on gameplay, it does have an effect on the market. Clean lions sell for far more than dirtly lions, denying that is honestly as if you weren't looking at the TC... EVER.

It is not discouraging it, it is simply saying that this is smth that will happen. You have no way of determining if this is inteded to sway the market.

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It is a toggle after all. If you dont like it/want it. Untoggle it. It isnt that hard.

The vast majority of game-players are clean breeders. Let the pixelated game help with the style they want to play. If dirty/IDC breeders dont like it, they may simply untoggle it.

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Thank you for everyone's Opinions

I Understand that inbreeding technically doesn't have an effect on a lion
It does how ever effect their value and that's an important part of this game
This warning would be a toggle option.

Also remember this only appears if the lion is related to you
You will still be able to efficiently breed NCL'S in a mass

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