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Shenaanigans (#486462)

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2024-08-06 00:57:03
Hello, all! I've recently returned to Lioden on a secondary account after a number of years and, since reverse breeding wasn't even an in-game feature back then, I have some catching up to do on how all this works as well as figuring out how to judge the worth of what's likely my most valuable asset-- a raffle lioness! I'm looking to probe for some interest on selling her heats and get a sense for what others would pay for them.

Here's the girly in question. Notably, because I quit playing soon after obtaining her, she has never been cloned in any way and this makes her one of a kind! She could be the start of a lovely line. As you can also see from the wiki screenshot below, she's from way back on 10/13/2017 and, as an extra detail, is only of only four RL lines with the teardrop base.

Heat in 5 days.



Any expressions of interest or estimates on what you'd personally value either ones heats at, in rough GB terms, are greatly appreciated! I'm also happy to talk early reservations if you're super keen on claiming one of the heats when they come around.



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Edited on 14/08/24 @ 18:50:28 by Shenaanigans (#486462)

Shenaanigans (#486462)

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2024-08-14 18:49:19
Edited the thread some to switch focus to only the RL. Her heat is now only 5 days out!



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Ricky/Infinightive (#177615)

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2024-08-24 10:00:11
Hi there! have you possibly considered keeping her a semi-private line for now?
by this I mean you breed her yourself and any clones, and release NRLCs [lions with 7 or more attributes of the lioness] for a higher price due to them being sought-after. This preserves her demand, and means later on you can sell her clones for their worth - about 1000GB in value.

another note is that jaglion boosts are no longer 15-20gb in value. They have dipped down to 10GB in value and are not that worth it in my opinion. I'd be better to go after breeding items, or accepting a g1/low gen jaglion as a payment on it's own as I've seen them dip in price a shit ton over the last few days.

Additionally, 150GB for a heat of a line that is so old and completely empty? That's extremely low and would not benefit you in any way, shape or form. Commonly, new rls or unbred/cloneless Rls will see heats being priced at UPWARDS of 250gb in pure, with the worth being about 270-300gb in items [resale price means you price items below their current market price]. Barked heat would also be upwards of 100gb, if not 150gb for a teardrop line. I would heavily suggest you up your planned prices as to not basically lowball yourself out of profit you can get due to the inflation of lioden being very different now.
Many users also charge something called a crunchy/gnawrock fee. This is where you charge someone money for using breeding items on your lioness that can make her clone; such as crunchies, gnawrocks, saltlicks, ochre powder and a few other items; buffies are not included in this list.
As well as this, users have split heats, and full heats to the lioness; a split heat is basically where you and the buyer spit the cubs in a litter by each choosing a cub one at a time. Full heats are where the user pays more to gain full litter rights. You'd be looking at about 200gb for a full barked litter for example, and about 150-175 for a split litter.

This is all due to her clones being worth at least 1000gb when you look at LD inflation, and her current demand.



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Shenaanigans (#486462)

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2024-08-27 13:47:16
Wow thank you for the very informative post! Honestly something like this is what I've really been trying to hunt around for, so I really appreciate it.

I do think my tentative plan is to keep her next heat or two for myself, maybe start up an auction if I'm hurting for GB, and make sure she's got plenty of life left in her for February to hit the ground running on barked heats. I'd really love to see her get some clones and the line propagate because I think she's just lovely to look at. But thank you again for the insightful comment, it's very nice to have that sort of info.



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Ricky/Infinightive (#177615)

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2024-08-27 13:49:01
it's alright! just do be aware that is an estimated price based on how many of her marks have less than 500 lions in game, two of them being less than 30 existing lions in-game. it could fluctuate in the next year or so, so i'd make sure to keep the price high and lower if you get no interest just to find a suitable balance for you.



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Sorin {G2 5k Ferus
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2024-08-28 05:56:30
How much I agree with infinightive, she's sorta plain which is a thing that decreases value/demand on a rl line, for example looking at April styx 2023, July ra 2023 and the constellion 2024 line, who got a lot of going on had insane values and demand when released, while rl's like asatic who are often plain barely get any posts of players wanting a heat or a clone of the rl asap.

I do totally agree with 150gb for a heat from a rare (old) line and rare markings is low, but imo 250+ is to much, but that's me

Edit: also the fact she isn't full bo (15/15) might also be a thing, I know some rlc collectors avoid buying lines (or clones) who aren't full bo which can also influence demand/value

I've seen it happen to other older lines, someone puts a clone up from a (revived) old line, some (revived) old lines get good offers, others are completely ignored I personally don't know the reasoning for this, but like I mentioned it could be that they were to plain or didn't have enough bo traits (forgot which lines they were)



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Edited on 28/08/24 @ 06:11:14 by Sorin {G1 thoth 5x rosette} (#359327)

Ricky/Infinightive (#177615)

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2024-08-28 07:13:45
I agree with Sorin! The BEST course of action you can take is to set the price to possibly around 200gb, and lower until you're happy with the amount of customers you have acquired. In all honesty I didn't look too much into her details, nor did I actually see how much of her was bo; but again, an old line is something that is tricky and just something for you to experiment with; but it's not nice seeing possible lowballs when it comes to someone returning to the game, or even a new player. People will continue giving you input, and you can make decisions from there; don't rely solely on one person's opinion.

i would check frequent and often to see what people think of her worth, just inquire in chat every now and then and see what kind of range commonly comes up.

but ultimately i do not reccomend accepting jag boosts as a form of currency, as it's a 1 in 150 chance of getting one; however this was edited out of the news post, so i assume it's been nerfed to something like half the chance [1 in 300, etc.].



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