Silly conspiracy but I'll get involved.

First of all, looking up Wilbie in the user search does bring up Wilby! I have no idea why this happens, especially since I was unable to replicate the effect using other usernames. This was the only case in which one username brought up a (seemingly) completely unrelated user.


Additionally, by accessing Wilbie's branch through that sex changer listing, we can go into the url of the page and recover Wilbie's ID - 266343. In the case of accessing a deleted user's data, an ID is like a golden ticket - It won't give access to every page (for one, their den page remains inaccessible), but it does grant as access to, among other things, their king

From this, we can see that Wilbie had one of the default rolled kings with no heritage (by accessing their king dynasty we can also see that this is their first/only king) - notably, these kings all start of at 2 years and 2 months of age - but Wilbie's king is 6 yrs 8 months old, meaning they rolled over 54 at least times. (possibly up to 78 times, if they used a primordial spring de-aging boost) It's also rather... Noticeable that the king is missing a name - something that unfortunately happens to every deleted user's king. (Worry not, though! This information can still be potentially recovered from other sources)


Additionally, via the member ID we can also access Wilbie's caves, either by using their ID in the lion search, or by editing the url of an unsorted page with their ID. From here, we can see that Wilbie had 5 submales, for whatever reason. None of the lions are in any way valuable and have seemingly been kept for sentimental reasons instead - They're long gen, inbred, potato-ish looking, and unrelated to Wilbie's pride - additionally, their blank "former prides" tab indicates that they are tree cubs.

What is more curious to me, are Wilbie's lionesses - Northernmost and Winnie

Winnie follows the trend of most of Wilbie's lions - a tree cub of no particular worth. What is interesting about her is that she was bred to Wilbie's nameless king. By itself? It means nothing. But, in combination with information we can derive from one of Northernmost's cubs... I think that the name of Wilbie's king was once Bow'Mane.


From Winnie, we know that Wilbie would breed their lionesses with their own default king - from the king's page, we know that he was heritageless. Additionally, one of the cubs has the Chert Back marking in slot 1 - the same marking that Wilbie's king does, and one that the mother, Northernmost, does not.

With this revelation, I am lead to believe that Wilbie was a warrior cats fan. The name structure of Bow'Mane matches the one used in the warrior cats book franchise and also it would give Wilby another reason for having killed this user. After all, we all know that the only appropriate punishment for being a wc fan is death /s

FURTHERMORE this would also make Wilbie's ghostly revenge on Wilby an epic reference to the Broken Code arc of the warrior cats books, which would line up with the previously confirmed genius of Wilbie. Only the smartest of the smart would think to make such an epic callback.

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Amazing intel! I wasn't aware you could do that! I think it's rather unlikely wilbie used the primordial spring, as if they purchased the decors on their king they would've been playing later in the year. 56 days roughly lines up with the months Bow'Mane's decors are from (October and November) so I'll assume wilbie started playing early October (or even in September)

Two of wilbie's lionesses, Hibiscus and Skalia, both bear decors from October, which just re-enforces my belief that wilbie joined the platform early October.


Please note multiple other lionesses also wear decor from November. (Such as Sunny and Tien.)

This may seem only tangently related to the topic, so let me explain why this is important- If wilbie played during October, the spookiest month of them all, they must be plenty scary. And what happens to plenty scary lions when they die? They turn into ghosts! This helps us understand that wilbie is still lurking within the bowels of lioden... Somewhere...... Perhaps in the.. shudder... dark forest.

As seen in this news post , Flame accents were added in 2020. This means that Bow'Mane can't have been playing before 2020, which narrows down the possible years they joined. Why am I trying to figure out when they joined? ...I'll get back to you on that one.

Bow'mane's name strikes me as odd, because the rest of wilbie's pride doesn't follow the naming convention used in warrior cats. Bow'mane also does not have the suffix "Star", which would be the only indicator that he is the leader
(This might've been altered by wilbie due to the fact lioden features.. well, lions. wilbie, you rule breaking spectre)
wilbie also seems to be very picky about marking opacity, as seen in the biographys of his lions. I don't think he's going to be very happy about being transparent. This may be why wilbie will strike down whoever names their lions wilbie.

This is all i've been able to figure out for now... Stay safe, lioden players......

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Ah it seems you were more thorough than I in the search for answers on the mystery of Wilbie (To be 100% honest I just did not feel like combing through 50+ lions for a gag post)

While looking through some additional pages using Wilbie's ID though, I noticed something interesting - mainly, that one can access their achievement page, and wowe, what a treasure trove of Wilbie info that thing is!

first of all, it seems that you were correct in your speculations and Wilbie was indeed active for most of October and November, as well as (at the very least) the first and twenty-fifth of December (having gained the "peace was never an option" achievement on the former, and the latter being listed as their last active date)



But more curiously, it seems that the achievements page logs the time a user makes their account down to the millisecond, fully confirming that Wilbie joined on the third of March, 2022, at precisely 00:45:32 LDT!

Another curious thing I discovered was that Wilbie actually made a singular post on the forums before their untimely demise:



Seems innocent enough, doesn't it? Just a newbie asking for help... But look closer and you might notice something strange - in the post, Wilbie inquiries about the location of the hoard! Seems strange, considering how it is easily accessible from the top of literally any page on Lioden.

Perhaps then... This is a post not referring to Lioden, but instead to the spirit's doomed situation instead? Recall that in the very beginning of the book Sunset it is mentioned that there is no prey to be caught in the dark forest/the place of no stars... Could this post then be the perturbed musings of a wayward spectre, unable to recognize it's predicament?

What a horrifying and cruel fate that Wilbie was condemned to, all for the amusement of Wilby... Preposterous!

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links here for later (just all that has been found so far...... wooooo.....) ;
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?mid=266343
https://www.lioden.com/achievements.php?id=266343&cat=pride
https://www.lioden.com/topic.php?id=304429446051
https://www.lioden.com/cave.php?id=207232
https://www.lioden.com/unsorted.php?id=266343

I'll look into this more later

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