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| Posted by | Celestial Raffle Bases on RLs |
 felidaze (#114852) 
View Forum Posts  Posted on 2024-09-19 12:40:12 |
pretty simple suggestion: let celestial raffle bases (such as skyward, sunset, jellyfish, etc) be used on weekly raffle lionesses! other BO special bases that are obtained from events (groupie exclusives, maneater stud bases) are allowed on raffle lionesses. if the intention is to keep event bases exclusive to their event it doesn't make sense to apply this to july bases but not others. if your concern with this suggestion is that it would make the july bases less unique or takes away from their identity, I'd like to ask you to consider whether you also believe that maneater/groupie bases being used on RLs makes maneater studs & groupies less unique or not. with the massive growth in popularity for raffle lionesses in the past couple years there's more desire for unique and nice looking RL designs and I'm sure lots of players would love to see july bases join the possible pool of RL bases for some new variety. a couple ideas for "compromises", if it would alleviate related concerns: - celestial raffle bases could only be used on RLs a year (or two, or three) after the base has been released, to give it a chance to be spread through the event first and foremost - celestial raffle bases could only be used on RLs for the month of july, to keep them unique to the month an anecdote I'm putting at the bottom of this post since it's anecdotal: it's not exactly the same, but I've been breeding for damu for over 8 months, and I've LOVED the effects that damu based RLs have had on the availability of the base. to be clear, I don't breed NRLCs, I like unique BO mixes. but damu NRLCs that have the base have been fantastic jumping off points to breed unique damus from and I'll forever appreciate their effect on my ability to breed unique damus. I'd be very sad if we lived in a world where damu wasn't allowed on RLs due to it being obtained via event! |
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🐉 Coffeekita | G1 BO Lilac (#308641) View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-09-19 12:47:51 |
Yes absolutely support im so glad SOMEONE said it. The massive lack of BO heavy/full BO july based lions, kings, etc is frustrating to try to work with (obviously IF thats the niche you play lioden in). Committed people have taken it upon themselves to basically make RL quality lions with July bases but this can take years to do. Letting these bases in on the RL fun would be super helpful in producing higher quality July based lions AND more variety of July based lions vs the current handful of traits that are just floating around. This suggestion would also help bases like Skyward, Celestial, and Sidereal specifically which definately lean more seminat in appearance but suffer from lack of 4/4 studs and lions. Their numbers would likely stop being so low if seminat breeders (who are usually also BO and project breeders) had better and more variety in stock to make projects with  4 players like this post! Like?Edited on 19/09/24 @ 13:04:31 by 🐉 Coffeekita | Cairngorm (#308641) |
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vertigoat 🦬 | 19BO outlaw (#114297) View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-09-19 13:08:52 |
i really don’t understand the logic in not allowing july bases to be added to raffle bases ever. like you said, maneaters are already a part of the raffle base pool and i feel like if any event made sense to disallow from the raffle pool, it would be THAT group since maneaters are way closer to full designs than celestial raffle lionesses. my argument here isn’t that maneaters should be disallowed from the RL pool, i’m moreso trying to point out that no one is upset about other event bases being on RLs even when they’re already more similar to RL designs. especially if bases are only added to the RL pool years later, how would it be ruining the fun with july? you’re still getting new bases/traits and marking slots, which is the whole point. i would love if some of the no supports would explain their reasoning, aside from just following previous july precedent. 6 players like this post! Like?Edited on 19/09/24 @ 13:11:05 by vertigoat 🦤 | x2ros outlaw (#114297) |
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Ronnie (#158086)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-09-19 13:25:40 |
Someone please get sunset and sunrise an RL design or two, their market in terms of BO isn't exactly thriving 5 players like this post! Like? |
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🍡Pinenut - G2 Pearl RLC (#191227) Luscious View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-09-19 13:39:46 |
omg PLEASE this would be an absolute dream!!! There really is no reason not to, and the current reasoning it has behind it just doesn't seem sufficient when Maneater bases are allowed. This change would be wonderful, and it would invoke so much more creativity and excitement into the designs that Katze get to create c: 3 players like this post! Like? |
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₭łrⱤ₳Ⱨ (#206114)
Harbinger View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-09-19 18:48:18 |
i hope we get july base rls because as is, bases like skyward and sidereal are slowly dying out as studs, and increasingly difficult to find for sale either. which is sad to see. at least rls could revitalize the interest in those beautiful bases, unlike the plain celestial raffle gals. adding new combo bases can only do so much if theyre month locked like constellation, or easier bred with other factors, in the case of cairngorm.  2 players like this post! Like? |
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⛄❄️Celeana🇹 🇳🇵🇸 (#374387) Impeccable View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-09-19 18:53:19 |
exactly! I'm planning on breeding 2 kings (one for my main, and the other my side) one as a skyward base, and the other a sidereal. Its hard bcs they are difficult to design markings to, and as Kirah said, they are slowly going extinct which is so unfortunate as they are absolutely stunning bases. 1 player likes this post! Like?Edited on 19/09/24 @ 18:53:52 by 🌻🌷☀️Celeana🇹🇳🇵🇸💜 (#374387) |
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vertigoat 🦬 | 19BO outlaw (#114297) View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-09-19 18:57:39 |
i'm a maneater breeder, so i can really only speak from anecdotal experience from that. i personally found having maneater RLs was really helpful for creating my own unique kings, since you can usually find a NRLC and then slowly change/add unique traits to it. because of that, i personally believe adding celestial bases to RLs would be really helpful for july breeders trying to get something unique & high BO. as it is, all july bases only come with one marking and a non-BO mane/skin combo which uh.. is pretty tough to launch off of. it's great for introducing the initial traits, but once they've been out for a few years, a lot of those bases just struggle to get any high BO studs up. at least maneaters have BO manes and more traits on the studs :') some people may be concerned july RLs would devalue their own projects i guess, but raffle exclusive bases, may bases, and august bases are all in the RL pool and still have demand for unique lines. adding july bases to the list would just allow players an easier place to jump off from when making those unique lions, which i really don't think would devalue high BO july bases much, if at all. i can still sell my maneater bases well despite there being RLs and maneater studs. 3 players like this post! Like?Edited on 19/09/24 @ 19:49:10 by vertigoat 🦤 | x2ros outlaw (#114297) |
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₭łrⱤ₳Ⱨ (#206114)
Harbinger View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-09-19 19:01:18 |
it took me 4 years to get to where i am now with my bo celestial line, and that was with being lucky about finding celestials with traits i needed. trying to do this with a less fortunate base sounds like it would take closer to 5 years.  0 players like this post! Like? |
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🍡Pinenut - G2 Pearl RLC (#191227) Luscious View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-09-19 19:12:45 |
I was fortunate enough to find an almost full-bo skyward that I've kinged on my side! But since then I don't think I've seen any others similar to his amount of BO traits in a long time, and I got him like a year ago 1 player likes this post! Like? |
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🐉 Coffeekita | G1 BO Lilac (#308641) View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-09-19 19:20:27 |
To add on to the comments describing time to breed a proper full BO july based project the current cairngorm i have as a king is nearly full BO and is a "fail" of a friend's 4 year sidereal project. 4+ years to try to hack away at full BO eyes, mane, mane color, and markings is insane. The players that have committed to these projects are strong as hell, but such a task can be understandably daunting to the average lioden player. By giving these bases the occasional RL, projects involving them become much more palatable for a greater variety of lioden players and in turn will aid in their numbers. Personally I dont think theres any reason to panic over a loss in value as even "raffle bases" like lilac, bushveld, pecora, and pearl remain rare and (to the right crowd) sought after. 6 players like this post! Like?Edited on 19/09/24 @ 19:28:44 by 🐉 Coffeekita | Cairngorm (#308641) |
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Anne (BO Sidereal) 🇵🇸 (#61013) Deathlord of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-09-20 17:14:35 |
Above mentioned cairn beast of a king of my fren is the fail i bred through my 4+ (5 now actually) year old on going project. and i have a full bo project going on for penta strato on my side. Its hellish I absolutely adore July BO bases and I don't see why they are excluded from the RLs. I'm sure it'll be a great way to spread rare july slots/ other markings/ traits, etc that work with july bases. If the game is catering to 99% of the players, why not the july breeders too  2 players like this post! Like?Edited on 20/09/24 @ 17:15:14 by Anne (BO Sidereal) 🇵🇸 (#61013) |
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Vanii [Main] (#36229)
UwU View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-09-21 14:15:00 |
Yes and Yes. When Celestial was released years ago in 2014 i believe, the base really has not change since its release. Markings and designs still all look the same tbh. Not much variety , cuz breeding stinks !! Now we have COMBO bases for July that are only bred for that month. [Talk about hard mode]. Their is not a lot of variety. And the RL's that are raffled in July. Are hoarded/lost to be held captive till whoever owns them decides to clone them. [looking at you pulsar RL's 2023] Let owners do what they want, but it feels like hella gate keeping at this point by only having these bases released for 1 month only.. and even then theirs so many July bases. You can only really create so many RLs that month. REVIVE the July based BO population. 2 players like this post! Like?Edited on 21/09/24 @ 14:26:00 by Vanii [Main] (#36229) |
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