Posted by RLC Reference Suggestion

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Posted on
2024-11-02 12:25:05
Okay so...
Here are some of the terms I find incredibly misleading that people use:
Faux Raffle Lioness (Clone (Not a clone))! Mods have firmly stated this is a nono.
Adjacent Raffle Lioness (Clone (Also not a clone)) which when Abbreviated looks like "ARLC" or, "A RLC" which is incredibly misleading yet allowed.

My suggestion is we're a bit more firm on how we label these. Adjacent RLC is misleading into thinking the lioness shares traits with the chosen RL however she doesn't. Her marks don't align with the slots and she has no relation to the RL.

Terms I think should be the current only ones allowed and not labeled as scamming behavior:
RLC (Raffle Lioness Clone)
RL (Raffle Lioness)
CRL (Chased RLC)
RRLC (Recreated Raffle Lioness Clone)
NRLC (Near Raffle Lioness Clone)
MRLC (Modified Raffle Lioness Clone (like the lilac line who's missing the skin but she's the only available line)
SL (and Variations, Special Lioness, Special Lioness Clone, Chased Special Lioness Clone, Modified Special Lioness Clone, Near Special Lioness Clone)

NOTE: When I say relation I don't mean related to Original Special Lioness, I mean by sharing the same exact traits. So like the marks are the same as the Raffle Lioness, the skin and base traits are the same. If the markings do not align with the slot there is NO relation and cannot be referred to as an ARLC because that term isn't fair and is unhealthy to our community in RLCs.

I feel the Raffle Lioness system is incredibly neglected and allowed for a lot of scamming despite users plea for more help in modding and general restriction.

I'd like it if mods were more firm on saying BO bombs and just not at all reference RLs or RLCs because it's incredibly misleading if they have genuinely no relation to the RLs. Even if they have the same look there's still NO relation!



This suggestion has 13 supports and 2 NO supports.



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Edited on 02/11/24 @ 15:15:36 by 🍎 Apples | Main 🍏 (#157903)

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Posted on
2024-11-05 12:58:02
I agree with this!

I would also like to see rules around what can be labelled as a nrlc and what cannot. 10/15 and more are solid nrlc, but below 7-8/15 is really iffy and I just don't think they should be labelled as "near clones" ... I think many would agree.



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Espenfalls ✧ G1
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2024-11-05 13:27:03
While I do agree with the sentiment I also believe enforcing rules specific to user trading is a bit much in my personal opinion. It is up to the player to decide what is or isn't a rlc/nrlc/ect and so while I do think as a community we can enforce these rules making them site rules would be, again, just a tad much.

Might be more worth it for people to post guides on identifying RLCS/NRLCS vs. Expecting the site to enforce it because that's a whole lot of lions to moderate.

Considering there is /so/ much scammy behavior the site technically allows (i.e paperclip trades, selling items with missing uses at their normal price, ect) I don't think that they'd really ever go so far as to make this a rule tbh.

BUT I do agree, 10/15 is generally what I'd consider a NRLC and people try to pass off altered clones as real clones all the time, or faux rlcs as real clones- But then again it's pretty easy to double check and ensure you're actually getting whats advertised!



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Edited on 05/11/24 @ 17:03:49 by Espenfalls ✧ G1 12/15bo Nomad (#127995)

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2024-11-05 13:35:38
I agree with Espenfalls. I think there should be some strict lines (like it HAS to be entirely unmodified to be called just a plain RLC, which I think was already enforced) but a bunch of these other terms are just player-made jargon. I wouldn't like to see moderators cracking down on these other player-made terms because I'm not sure I'd like the precedent it could set. I'm not trying to slippery slope, and it's not really that serious at the end of the day, it just doesn't rub me the right way.

With that said, again, a community effort might be nice, and I'm neither supporting nor no supporting. Just my thoughts.



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🍎 Apples | Main
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2024-11-05 16:02:32
I can understand that! I just feel it's too vague rn and with RLs we can do something about it or make it more welcome to suggestions regarding what terms we allow!

I know some people really like selling "arlcs" for as much as normal RLCs and since it's a game created mechanic, I think this would be a fine thing for them to moderate! Unlike primals and hybrids, etc

Sorry if this doesn't make sense I'm at work haha



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πŸŽƒπŸ‚ leon (g1
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2024-11-05 16:16:36
I am really curious because I've never seen ARLC anywhere, and when I keyword search on the trading center, it has no idea what I'm talking about either. Genuinely asking, where are you seeing them?

I don't think I'm necessarily opposed to banning a couple more misleading terms, if there are some worth banning, but I'm not sure I like the idea of making a list of terms that are exclusively allowed--I think we should leave room for the community's vocabulary to expand and change. I neither trust devs to keep the exclusive allowed list updated nor want to put that responsibility on them.



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🍎 Apples | Main
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2024-11-05 16:42:19
I can dm you if you'd like :P wouldn't want to say on the thread πŸ˜…

That's understandable and a good point! I gave a list since these ones are well known and commonly accepted (and been around for a long time), but that's always up to change!



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