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2014-03-06 10:29:44

# Whats this? #

We all been there, and Ive seen many question in chat about it, what is the "right" sellingprice for a cub/lion/ess or what to set as a studdingfee? Well, the right price is depending if you are the seller or the buyer (or the lioness owner), for the first its often for the highest price and for the other the lowest price.

For myself I would like to get at least some back on the studfee if the cub Im selling dont turn out the way I wanted/need it to be (if Im aiming for something special) but the cub isnt "ugly" (or "plain") enough to not at least deserve a chance for a new home. So...I put together these little pricing "guides", in parts building on both stats, basecolor and markings.

If you like it - you are of course welcome to use it (and there would be a happy Deccy to get a little blub/mention about it, not that I will cry "crocodiletears" if you dont - I mean - I have no meerkat chance of checking things like that ;)) Also big thanks for all for input on the first guide I posted here.

PLEASE remember these guides are no "rules" on prices, just a simple guide.



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# Edits #




# 28 dec 2013: Ive added a suggestion for a studfee guide as well. (pst...this is more like a guideline than rule ;) each are welcome to price their lions sellingprice/studfee in whatever way they want...I have just made this as a ballplank)

# 15 jan 2014: Ive noticed that it can "pull" away some in pricing, sometimes (for me) feeling like perhaps its a little "too" hefty pricewise. Ive done so that for a for example 544 stated lion Ive counted 1sb per statpoint UP TO 500, then for the remaining 44 statpoints Ive counted 3sb per statpoint. It have worked well for me, the lion still gets it value but the price dont become to steep for a hopeful buyer.

# 17 feb 2014: Added the new NCL special markings as well as the "Maroon 4" markings to "special markings") to the guides. Also made a little change of value. The Raffle specials IS getting down in "specialty" and they are harder to sell (from what Ive heard people say).

# 18 apr 2014: Added the Apr.NCL Markings as well as the two new common markings Under White 4 and Under Cream 4. We have also gotten mutations in the game. From the news [posted apr.14] "There are a total of 18 mutations that can crop up. The lower a fertility the lioness has, the higher the chance the mutation may appear, though mutations may appear on all fertility levels. Some are rarer than others. Some show up at birth, and some won't appear until the lion reaches adulthood. In general, the more severe the mutation, the more chance it may prove fatal for the cub or affect gameplay in some way. Of course, the most severe mutations are the rarest."
Ive chosen not to include the mutation in this guide.

# 17 may 2014: Added the new raffle base (lilac) as well as the new custom markings Leg Banding and Tail Banding in black, brown, darkbrown and onyx.

# 30 may 2014: Added Mahogany Coat, Mahogany Paws, Mahogany Sable to the list of custom markings.

# 13 june 2014: Added Fiery Undershine, Bottom, Undercover and Belly to the list of event markings.

# 4 july 2014: Added Falling Stars Event Specials Celestial (basecolor), Starshine (eyecolor), Celestial Agouti, Celestial Cover, Celestial Shine, and Celestial Speckles (markings)

# 11 july 2014: Added Cocoa and Sepia (special raffle mane colors, can only get them from the raffle or breeding) and Fallow and Vanilla, who are colors that you can get by customizing. There was also new markings, hairbands (white, onyx, brown, gold) and twilight (bi-colour marking).

# 1 august 2014: Added Eyebrows (black, brown, gold, onyx) and Ear Rims (black, onyx) - these markings are for customs only.

# 29 august 2014: Added the two new custom eyecolors, hazel and ice.

# 5 september 2014: Added the two new bases, Fallow (custom only) and Sepia (raffle only).

# 19 september 2014: Added the big pile of new markings Xy gave us;
(copied from news post)
Custom Markings Only: White Luster, Cream Luster, White Underfur, Cream Underfur, White Mist , Cream Mist Brown Crust, Golden Crust , Mahogany Crust, Fallow Cloud, Cream Cloud , Mahogany Cloud, Onyx Brindle, Brown Brindle

Raffle Markings Only: White Lace , Cream Lace (this is basically inverted panther underside look), Feline 1 Onyx , Feline 1 Black , Feline 1 Dark Brown, Feline 2 Onyx , Feline 2 Black , Feline 2 Dark Brown, Feline 3 Onyx , Feline 3 Black , Feline 3 Dark Brown, Brown Crackle , Dark Brown Crackle, Gold Brindle (this one is exclusive to raffle due to the golden colour being attractive on darker bases)

# 22 september 2014: New Wild Special NCL markings:
Domino - in Black, Dark Brown, Onyx; Flux - in Black, Dark Brown, Fallow; Smoke - in Black, Brown, Dark Brown, Fallow, Onyx; Dust - in Fallow, Golden; Cobweb - in White only

# 10 october 2014: New custom base color; Chestnut; custom eyecolor Jet

# 19 october 2014: Added the Event basecolor and marking, Inferno (basecolor) and markings Infernal Agouti, Infernal Crust, Infernal Glaze, Infernal Rouge

# 24 october 2014: New custommarkings: Black Ripple, Cream Chin, Cream Facial 1 & 2, Cream Veil, Dark Brown Mantle, Fallow Ripple, Golden Mantle, Onyx Mantle, Onyx Ripple, White Chin, White Facial 1 & 2, White Veil

A Special "Breeding Project Secret marking was also introduced; Rosette - comes in Onyx, Brown, Gold, and Cream

# 7 november 2014: Two new manecolors, Chestnut (custom only) and Lilac (raffle only), and one new eyecolor; Cognac (custom only, with small fee)

# 21 november 2014: New Custombase; Silver. Eventbase Hollow.

# 12 december 2014: New Custommarkings; Silver Brindle, Silver Belly, Silver Coat, Silver Leg Banding, Silver Ripple, Silver Sable, Silver Shell, Silver Tail Banding, Silver Undercover, Silver Underfur

# 19 december 2014: New eyecolor; Tan and Olive, can be found on NCLs as well be picked in the customizer.

# 26 december 2014: New basecolor; Deira, can be found in the customizer.

# 16 jan 2015: Custom Markings: Black Points, Brown Points, Cream Points, Cream Socks, Cream Undercoat, Dark Brown Grit, Dark Brown Points, Fallow Grit, Fallow Undercoat, Gold Undercoat, Onyx Grit, Onyx Points, Silver Undercoat, White Socks, White Undercoat
Raffle Markings: Feline 4 Onyx, Feline 4 Dark Brown, Feline 4 Black, Lilac Points, Vitiligo 4

# 23 jan 2015: 3 new common colors (NCLs and Rolled lions): Caramel, Khaki and Deep Fawn

# 30 jan 2015: 2 new custom eye colors: Sapphire and Saffron

# 6 feb 2015: 12 new common colors (NCLs and Rolled lions): Dark Brown Shroud, Brown Shroud, Fallow Shroud, Gold Shroud, White Blaze, Cream Blaze, White Shimmer, Cream Shimmer, Fallow Shimmer, Dark Brown Crumbing, Brown Crumbing, & Golden Crumbing

# 16 feb 2015: Added the Event basecolor and markings, Blush Rose (basecolor) and markings Rose Cover, Rose Crust, Rose Glaze, Rose Pelage
NEW Event NCL marks: Dark Brown Ridge, Onyx Ridge, Tan Ridge + those from last year (see above)

# 27 feb 2015: Added new custom eye color: Emerald

# 6 mar 2015: Added new custom basecolor; Russet as well as new raffle/special basecolor Pearl.

# 13 mar 2015: Added new custom markingsr; Silver Blaze and Silver Shimmer as well as new raffle/special markings Dim Silver, Tan Crumbing,and Lilac Crumbing.

# 3 apr 2015: Added new Raffle marking: Vitiligo 5



butterfly_angolawhitelady.png# Deccys PriceGuide for Selling Lions #



This guide do not include SKILL in stats

= STATS* (sb per stat)

1-500 st: 1sb

501-700 st: 3 sb

701-999 st: 4 sb

1000-2000 st: 5 sb

2001- st: 10sb

= BASECOLOR

Wild/Common: +20 sb

Rare/Custom: +40 sb

Special/Raffle: +60 sb

= MARKING (sb per mark)

Wild/Custom: +25 sb

Wild Special: +35 sb

Special/Raffle: +45 sb

Event: +55 sb

= EYECOLOR

Wild: +0sb

Custom: +100sb

Het. (custom): +200sb

Red (cust): +200sb

butterfly_giantafricanswallowtail.png# Deccys PriceGuide for Studding - Lions #


This guide do not include SKILL in stats

= STATS** (sb per stat)

1-600 st: 1sb

601-800 st: 2 sb

801-999 st: 3 sb

1000-2000 st: 4 sb

over 2001 st:5 sb

= BASECOLOR

Wild/Common: +20 sb

Rare/Custom: +40 sb

Special/Raffle: +60 sb

= MARKING (sb per mark)

Wild/Custom: +25 sb

Wild Special: +35 sb

Special/Raffle: +45 sb

Event: +55 sb

= EYECOLOR

Wild: +0sb

Custom: +100sb

Het. (custom): +200sb

Red (cust): +200sb

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EXAMPLE FOR BOTH GUIDES REGARDING SELLING and MALESTUDDING.


# The lion
Strength: 124 | Speed: 116 | Stamina: 102 | Smarts: 102 | Agility: 117 | Skill: 15
Base: Copper | Eyes: Green| Mane Type: Razor | Mane Color: Cream Darker
Markings: Slot 1: Onyx Cover (81%) | Slot 4: Onyx Shell (80%) | Slot 5: Black Panther (100%) | Slot 6: Leg Banding Onyx (100%) | Slot 9: Vitiligo 1 (100%) |
Slot 10: Under White 4 (100%) |


1) Calculate the stats (not incl skills). For the example lion its a total of 561.

2) Your lion have stats over 500, you will use the column for 1-500st & 501-700 st. Up to 500 stats, one (1) stat points = 1 sb. Our example lion/ess have 561 so its 500 x 1 = 500. This leaves 61 statpoints to the next column. In this, 501-700 st column each stat is worth 3sb per statpoint, ie 61 x 3 = 183. If your lion have over 700 you calculate up to 700 and bring whats left to the third column.
Our example lion/ess statvalue is 561 so the value in sb is as follows 500 + 183 = 683 sb.

3) Next come Basecolor. Our examplelion/ess have a coppercoat. Its a color you find in the customizer, its a are "custom color". In this guide its valued to 40sb. Now you have 683 + 40 = 723 sb.

4) This lion have six markings, 1 wild marking, 3 custom markings and 2 raffle markings. 25x4 + 2x45 = 190. This give us 723+190 = 913sb

5) Finally, eyecolor. In this guide the eyecolor you find in the wild isnt worth anything. Our lion have green eyes. 913+100 = 1013sb.

6) In the end our lion is worth 1013sb and depending on how you value GB you can translate this sum to GB if you like.






butterfly_twotailedpasha.png# Deccys PriceGuide for Studding - Lioness #


This guide do not include SKILL in stats

The DAM FEE include

:

- MALE STUDFEE
This goes to pay the maleowner - not the lionessowner, but should be sent to the lionessowner beforehand - this so the studfee can be paid IF the maleowner runs out of spots - that fee will be RETURNED. This is the ONLY SB and/or GB should bepay before hand (unless other arrangements have been made)


- FEMALE STATVALUE
The Lioness stats (w/o skills) worth in SB (ie if she have 260 in stats = 260sb)


- LITTERCOST (calculate cost per cub)

Wild/Custom Coat: 10 sb

Event Marking: 100 sb

Special/Raffle Coat: 40 sb

Wild Eyecolor: 0sb

Wild/Custom Marking: 25 sb

Custom Eyecolor: 25sb

Special/Raffle Marking: 40 sb

Red/Het. (Custom) Eyecolor: 50sb

Example
Female, total stat without skill is 260
Studmale, have fee of 250 sb.
Litter: 2 cubs
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- 1 with a wild/custom coat with TWO wild/common markings (50sb)
- 1 with a special coat and TWO raffle markings, ONE event marking (220)
Total cost ie Femalestudding with the malestudfee: 260+250+50+220 = 780 sb

butterfly_westernbluecharaxes.png# List on color/markings #


All the info is from Lioden Wiki
- please feel free to nudge me if I happend to copy/paste thing on the wrong spot



BASE COLORS


Wild/Common:
All Creams, all Goldens, Fawn, Mongoose, Dove Gray, Rosy Brown, Sundust

Custom/Rare:
Albino, Beige, Black, Brown, Copper, Dark Brown, Dark Fawn, Deira, Fallow, Gray, Mahogany, Maltese, Russet, Silver, Onyx, Vandal, Vanilla, White

Special "Raffle":
Cocoa, Fiery, Lilac, Maroon, Pearl, Prune, Sepia, Slate

Falling Stars Event Special:
Celestial

Rabies & Nightmares Event Special:
Inferno

Whispering Ancestor Event Special:
Hollow

Valentine Event Special 2015:
Blush Rose




MANE COLOR & MANE MARKINGS


Wild Colors:
Brown, Caramel, Deep Fawn, Golden, Khaki

Custom Colors:
Beige, Black, Chestnut, Copper, Cream, Cream Darker, Cream Lighter, Dark Brown, Dark Fawn, Dark Golden, Fallow, Fawn, Golden 1-5, Gray, Light Cream, Light Golden, Mahogany, Onyx, Ruddy, Vandal, Vanilla, Walnut, White

Special Raffle Mane colors:
Cocoa, Sepia, Lilac

Wild Mane Markings:
Brown Low Flow, Brown Back Hair, Black Low Flow, Black back hair, Classic Cream Front, Cream Half, Classic Half Front, Cream Strokes, Golden Half

Custom Mane Markings:
Brown Bottom Smooth, Brown Top Smooth, Brown Half, Brown Top, Black Beard, Black Ends, Black Flow, Black Tips, Black Quarter, Black Half, Black Half, Cream Beard, Cream Half, Dark Brown Ends, Dark Brown Flow, Golden Ends, Golden Flow, Golden Tips, Onyx Back Hair, Onyx Ends, Onyx Flow, Onyx Half, Onyx Low Flow, Onyx Quarter, Onyx Tips, Twilight, White Beard, White Half, White Tips, White Streak, White Strokes



FUR MARKINGS



Wild/Common:
Black Back, Black Chest, Black Cover, Black Gradient 1-2, Black Mask, Black Tail, Brown Back, Brown Chest, Brown Cover, Brown Crumbing, Brown Face, Brown Gradient 1-2, Brown Mask, Brown Shroud, Brown Tail, Cream Belly, Cream Blaze, Cream Shimmer, Darken Brown, Dark Brown Back, Dark Brown Chest, Dark Brown Cover, Dark Brown Crumbing, Dark Brown Mask, Dark Brown Shroud, Dark Brown Tail, Fallow Shroud, Fallow Shimmer, Gold Back, Gold Chest, Golden Crumbing, Gold Shroud, Golden Tail, Leg Stripes, Spotting Light, Under White 4, Under Cream 4, White Belly, White Blaze, White Cover, White Shimmer

Wild Special:
Feb.
Black Glaze, Black Shoulders, Black Pelage, Brown Glaze, Brown Shoulders, Cream Venter, Dark Brown Glaze, Dark Brown Shoulders, Onyx Shoulders, Shaded Black, Shaded Brown, Shaded Dark Brown, Shaded Onyx, White Tiptoe, White Undershine, White Venter

Apr.
Black Ear Backs, Black Marble, Black Nose Tip, Black Siamese, Brown Marble, Brown Nose Tip, Brown Siamese, Cream Bottom, Dark Brown Marble, Dark Brown Nose Tip, Dark Brown Siamese, Golden Marble, Onyx Ear Backs, Onyx Nose Tip, Onyx Siamese, White Bottom, White Torso

Sept.
Black Domino, Black Flux, Black Smoke, Brown Smoke, Dark Brown Domino, Dark Brown Flux, Dark Brown Smoke, Fallow Dust, Fallow Flux, Fallow Smoke, Golden Dust, Onyx Domino, Onyx Smoke, White Cobweb

Custom:
Black Ear Rims, Black Eyebrows, Black Leg Banding, Black Points, Black Ripple, Black Sable, Black Tail Banding, Brown Brindle, Brown Crust, Brown Eyebrows, Brown Hairbands, Brown Leg Banding, Brown Paws, Brown Points, Brown Tail Banding, Cream Cloud, Cream Chin, Cream Coat, Cream Collar, Cream Facial 1 & 2, Cream Luster, Cream Mist, Cream Points, Cream Sable, Cream Shell, Cream Socks, Cream Undercoat, Cream Undercover, Cream Underfur, Cream Veil, Dark Brown Coat, Dark Brown Grit, Dark Brown Leg Banding, Dark Brown Mantle, Dark Brown Points, Dark Brown Shell, Dark Brown Smudge, Dark Brown Tail Banding, Darken Black, Darken Onyx, Dorsal Black, Dorsal Brown, Fallow Cloud, Fallow Grit, Fallow Ripple, Fallow Undercoat, Golden Coat, Golden Crust, Golden Eyebrows, Golden Hairbands, Golden Mantle, Golden Sable, Golden Undercoat, Mahogany Cloud, Mahogany Coat, Mahogany Crust, Mahogany Paws, Mahogany Sable, Onyx Back, Onyx Brindle, Onyx Coat, Onyx Cover, Onyx Ear Rims, Onyx Eyebrows, Onyx Face, Onyx Face, Onyx Gradient 1, Onyx Gradient 2, Onyx Grit, Onyx Hairbands, Onyx Leg Banding, Onyx Mantle, Onyx Mask, Onyx Paws, Onyx Points, Onyx Ripple, Onyx Sable, Onyx Shell, Onyx Smudge, Onyx Tail Banding, Silver Blaze, Silver Belly, Silver Brindle, Silver Coat, Silver Leg Banding, Silver Ripple, Silver Sable, Silver Shell, Silver Shimmer, Silver Tail Banding, Silver Undercoat, Silver Undercover, Silver Underfur, Spotting Heavy, Under Cream 1-3, White Collar, Under White 1-3, White Chin, White Facial 1 & 2, White Hairbands, White Luster, White Mist, White Socks, White Undercoat, White Undercover, White Underfur, White Veil,

Special "Breeding Project Secret marking":
Rosette comes in Onyx, Brown, Gold, Cream

Special "Raffle":
Black Feline 1-4, Black Panther, Black Rogue, Brown Crackle, Brown Pelage, Cream Lace, Cream Soft Unders, Cream Rims, Cream Underfelt, Dark Brown Crackle, Dark Brown Feline 1-4, Dark Brown Panther, Dark Brown Pelage, Dark Brown Rogue, Dim Black, Dim Brown, Dim Dark Brown, Dim Lilac, Dim Silver, Dorsal Line, Gold Brindle, Golden Panther, Lilac Crumbing, Lilac Pelage, Lilac Rogue, Lilac Points, Onyx Feline 1-4, Onyx Panther, Tan Crumbing, Vitiligo 1-5, White Lace, White Rims, White Soft Unders, White Underfelt

Valentine Event Special 2014 - Maroon Four:
Maroon shell, Maroon sable, Maroon coat, Maroon pelage

Flood Event Special - Fiery Unders:
Fiery Undershine, Fiery Bottom, Fiery Undercover, Fiery Belly

Falling Stars Event Special - Celestials:
Celestial Agouti, Celestial Cover, Celestial Shine, Celestial Speckles

Rabies & Nightmares Event Special - Inferno:
Infernal Agouti, Infernal Crust, Infernal Glaze, Infernal Rouge

Valentine Event Special 2015 - Rosy Cheeks:
Rose Cover, Rose Crust, Rose Glaze, Rose Pelage




EYECOLOR




Wild/Common:
Amber, Black, Brown, Olive, Tan, Yellow

Regular (custom):
Blue, Green, Pink, White, Grey

Special (custom):
Cognac (+fee), Emerald, Ice, Jet, Hazel, Heterochrome Blue & Green, Het. Blue & Brown, Het. Brown & Blue, Het. Green & Blue, Red, Saffron, Sapphire

Falling Stars Event Special Eyecolor:
Starshine






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Edited on 06/04/15 by Decor [The 200-reds!] (#17721)

Carter (#36957)

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Posted on
2015-07-27 16:18:34
Is this still accurate pricing for selling lions? I've never really sold lions before (I mostly chased or killed ones I didn't want) but people say that the lion selling market is just awful. Is this little girl really worth 301sb? Or did I do my math wrong?



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KrisB {Phoenobias} (#64874)

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Posted on
2015-07-30 17:13:49
I think it depends on the potential buyer and what the seller values. If someone focuses on mutations for their den, they'll be seeking out VLFs. It also depends on the actual market value of a certain marking or base, etc., which fluctuates constantly. If you want, you can browse the market on the forums and/or the TC, focusing on attributes that the lion you wish to sell is going for, and how old the trade is/if it's one of the glitches that doesn't take down all of the trades when they should be (which you can tell if the person has been inactive for over a month or so)
Otherwise, go with your gut!
And ask around, of course. The Main Chat can be very helpful.



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2015-09-11 13:38:17
i know you have mane color / markings in this guide, but what about mane type?



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AliceAM (#67174)

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Posted on
2015-10-18 06:32:59
This guide is horrible outdated :( please update! I have problems selling 700stat lionesses with rare markings for more than 350sb, it seems that everything below 1000stats is super cheap



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Perytiion (#65080)

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2015-10-27 03:36:39
Unfortunately this method is no longer anywhere near correct. It seems that the Lioden economy has become pretty broken over the space of a year. There is no definitive SB value attached to anything at all. :C



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Kenzii[G3 Clean
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Posted on
2015-12-26 04:47:25
Sucks cuz many people who can't sell items or art have no real good way of making sb now



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Fizzlepop (#49710)

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Posted on
2016-01-30 03:32:34
With permission from Deccy, I'm creating an up to date version of the price guide.

It's still a work in progress, so you're more than welcome to take a look and comment on it.



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2016-02-17 01:43:00
http://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=634046890689 how much would this cub be worth? i didnt see skyward base between the bases?



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Jacimagicwhitedeer (#87017)

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2016-06-03 23:37:40
thank you fro the guide.



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2016-07-30 11:14:15
What about Onyx Ridge?



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Mabel (#69197)

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Posted on
2016-09-03 00:23:00
How about seafoam eyes too?



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2017-03-14 05:11:49
Bookmarked!



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2018-01-22 22:44:19
This was very helpful, but what about mane colors and rarity of that?



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Posted on
2018-04-03 21:34:46
what category would an almond base be in?



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