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Posted by | The Great Pride (200+ support!) |
![]() Kat (#24520) Vicious View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-06-03 09:12:02 |
***Wow! So much support! Yay~! Thanks guys~!*** **This idea has taken a lot of time to write out, and edit again and again. Please don't post responses that take only a few seconds to type out. If you have nothing to say to help me improve, please don't say it, I would like constructive reviews but not plain old criticism just pointing out what you don't like and not giving suggestions to improve the problem you see. Also I would appreciate it if you would respect the time and effort it took for me to make this idea. Thank you~!** I was posting an advertisement for my lioness for what felt like the 100th time, it seemed at if she'd never sell! I sighed to myself, wishing there was a different way to get rid of them that would still earn me money for the breeding, feathers I used, time I spent with her, food I fed her. Then I had an idea. Why not have a lion NPC that buys lionesses and cubs, and prices them depending on things like stats, or number of markings. (P.S I finally managed to sell that lioness xD) This is designed just to give you a bit of money back on a lioness that you breed that no one is buying, it doesn't give you much money, and it's designed that way, so that selling to to other players is still worth it. This will help the cub market as well since people who know their cub will not sell but want something from it. It will also add more money into the game, meaning people will be more likely to buy that cute cub and it will improve the gene pool as ugly cubs are removed from the game, players would be more likely to get rid of the ugly cubs with a "rewards system" of sorts in place for their efforts How this would work: Option 1) You would click on the link (from the explore area), that would bring you to a page with a drop down menu and a NPC lion that would say something about always looking for new lionesses/lions or cubs, you would then chose the lioness you want to sell to him from the drop down menu, and click a button next to the drop down menu, it would ask you "are you sure you want to sell this lioness, it is irreversible" you would click yes or no, then your lioness would vanish from your den, and you would have more SB! Option 2) You encounter the lion as a uncommon explore NPC, it would say "a lion walks over to you, asking if a member of your pride would join his, he's offering SB" if you clicked yes it would then give you a drop down menu, you would pick the lioness you want to sell to him, and click a button next to the drop down menu, it would ask you "are you sure you want to sell this lioness, it is irreversible" you would click yes or no, then your lioness would vanish from your den, and you would have more SB! Pricing: Pricing would depend on stats, marking and or level. Here is a suggestion on how it would work. The pricing are designed in a way to keep people from just mass capturing NCLs to sell. Note: If possible, we could also make it impossible to sell NCL lionesses to the lion Levels: 1-5: add no SB 6-10: add 11-20: add 21+: add Stats: Under 70: add no SB 70-99: add 100-199: add 200-299: add 300-399: add 400-499: add 500-599: add 600-699: add 700-799: add 800-899: add 900-999: add 1000+: add Markings: 0-3 markings: no SB added 4-5 markings: add 6-10 markings: add Bases(optional): Common: no SB added Special: 5 SB added Examples: -A level 8 Prune based lioness with 5 marks and 378 stats. Sadly no once wants your lioness since her markings don't necessarily look that good on her. She would sell for -A normal NCL lioness, you sent her hunting maybe once or twice so she's level 3, she has 3 marks, and 50 stats. Your trying to take advantage of the system and sell NCLs. She would sell for 0 SB or 0 SB with the base factor since it has a common base. -A very nice cub, it's level 1, has grey base, has 6 markings and has 600 stats. Sadly it just isn't seeming to sell and you don't have the room for it in your den. This cub would sell for -The fail cub, it's level 1, has a Maltese base, and no markings, but it had 478 stats, you can't believe your lioness and that lovely stud made this cub! There is no way you could sell this cub. This cub would sell for Prices could be changed if everyone thinks they are to high/low. (Prices lowered: 1 time)(Prices raised: 0 times) Pros to this: 1) Clean out the cub market 2) Make cub selling more profitable, less supply makes prices go up! (Witch balances out the extra SB people are making) 3) This will erase lionesses instead of turning them into NCL like chase does! So not only do we get more money, we get less NCLs in the market! 4) Help close the new player vs old player gab by letting everyone make money 5) Improve the genetics and stats of lioden by getting rid of the bad or undesirable lions, like natural selection! 6) Add something to the game to make casual players more happy (they've all been upset about cub mortality, maybe this will be like a little silver lining) Other User's Suggestions: 1) Limit on how many lions sent a day/week/month 2)Only cubs born in your pride able to be sent or only cubs related to your main male able to be sent 3) Adds good karma (unlike kill) 4) Change it to a flat rate 5) Instead of just adding good karma add a"bad"lion to also give bad karma Arguments: A: Mass breeders will become rich R: Mass breeders can already sell to the CC and get money like this, and, they spend lots of GB to get all those territory slots! There is also the option to add a caps on how many you can sell a week/month. A: It's to much money for the lionesses R: *Lowers pay* A: It takes away the strategy part of the game R: There's still strategy since it rewards better lions, and Lioden is categorized as a SIM game, not a strategy game A: People could buy cheep cubs/lionesses and sell them for more with this NPC and make money. R: These cheep cubs/lionesses wont be for sale anymore, the seller will just sell to the NPC on their own or will sell it at a higher rate to prevent this. |
Kat (#24520)
Vicious View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-06-10 04:21:20 |
Thanks to all the people who have given me well written criticism. ![]() Edited on 10/06/15 by Kat (LAGS and LTFC) (#24520) |
Minimanta (#1684)
![]() ![]() Usual View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-06-10 05:45:24 |
I would personally love a reward system to get rid of ugly worthless cubs, either this where it's rewarding SB or like in other suggestions where it rewards a different sacrifice currency which you can spend in a special reward shop. So yeah, support. BUT it should NOT affect karma at all, that would just be unfair to the bad boys. Or if it should affect karma then there has to be two options, a good and a bad one. A possible scenario could be that you send your unwanted pride member to either a good lion or to an evil lion who will then pay a bit of SB and either positive or negative karma respectively. EDIT: And I just want to say, mass breeders do not breed 30 lionesses at the same time. At least not the average mass breeder. I'm a mass breeder and the most lionesses I've had giving birth on the same day was like 8 or so. And they usually pop out only one cub, sometimes two and rarely anything above. That would of course still be a lot of SB in the long run, but still 30 lionesses at the same time is a bit exaggerated. ![]() Edited on 10/06/15 by Minimanta (#1684) |
StormWatcher (#57285)
Magnificent View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-06-10 08:41:45 |
Ehhh... I have to say I'm not a fan of this idea, yes it would cut down on the "kill fodder" in the Trading Center but yeah I'm mirroring what Axel had to say it would encourage people to just breed cubs constantly and get tons of SB which has significant ripple effects on the "economy" of Lioden due to the sudden influx of new SB entering the market out of nowhere, even with something like a "cap" on how many cubs you can send per week. That and this is just IMO but one of the things I like about this game is that it's not easy to just get rid of unwanted cubs, outside of killing them or chasing them. In summary the idea has too many problems that could really mess with SB as a currency, and their is already a simpler solution, the chase off button, it gets rid of your unwanted lion with no affect on your karma or anything. ![]() Edited on 10/06/15 by StormWatcher (Stop the Floods) (#57285) |
Aratare [QuadCel Cameo King] (#37892) ![]() Evil View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-06-13 00:58:56 |
Perhaps instead of selling lionesses and cubs to another lion (kinda sounds like a slave market), how about when you Chase the lioness tries to bribe her way to stay. It doesn't work, obviously, but she would drop X SB based on whatever formula was developed. ![]() |
Shozurei (#49512)
Evil View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-06-14 13:14:12 |
I like this idea. I've got a bunch of lions up for sell because I can't keep them all and selling a few to an NPC would really help me out in territory space. And to all you people who are talking about mass breeders ruining the market - they're already selling those cubs in the Trading Center. And there's tons of ways to get SB in the game already AKA the Monkey! But may I suggest only allowing one or 2 sells a week? And a cap on the amount of SB you can get per sell. That will keep things down to a more manageable level. ![]() |
The Saho clan (#23585)
Famous View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-06-14 21:51:07 |
Support. We need more SB in the economy, and ugly lions ending up being chased off still sometimes show up as NCLs in explore. Some people don't want to kill lions, but chasing doesn't truly remove them. ![]() |
Leneka (#8307)
Prince of the Savannah View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-06-15 08:17:04 |
I support this. I have custom colored and marked lions and breed only those, I pass up heat cycles because I simply cannot sell any of them. They're not ugly and I have spent GB on nearly every breeding when you consider my lion is an Oasis lion and when I use other studs, I normally have to pay GB. GB is real world money spent on breeding, and I can't even get any SB back on them. I breed to make better cubs, not just because (this is ingrained in me as a real world animal livestock breeder). People love to bash on "mass breeders" just like irl they love to bash on backyard breeders, but the truth is, we have a right to breed what we want as we see fit. It's not up for you to say they're doing wrong, and it will never stop. Ways to dispose of excess animals with some form of profit is always good for any industry. So you make money breeding, they make money disposing, who cares? Your way of making profit isn't any better or more right than theirs. I.E. "I breed cows to make money, they butcher them, I am better because I breed." That is essentially what everyone against this is saying, disregarding the fact that this would help with raising demands for cubs for sale. Less cubs available for purchase raises demand and prices. That's economics 101 (literally, in college class Economics 101) Supply and Demand drive prices ![]() |
Kat (#24520)
Vicious View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-07-05 12:52:05 |
Thank you Leneka for the possitive comment! I agree, it is like bluchering vs breeding. Plus, mass breeders have to pay GB for all those slots (many have 80 or more that I have seen). What's wrong with improvement? I think improvement is a good thing! This will also help clean out the sales as people with ugly or low stat cubs wont bother, they'll just sell them, this idea also removes them from the system, so it doesn not add NLC lionesses! ![]() |
Carcin (#62967)
Notable Lion View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-07-06 13:50:15 |
Support! I have way too many lionesses I can't get rid off and implementing this would help get rid of some of the unwanted lions/lioness. It would also cull the population. ![]() |
Rubi [PrimalRosttNoctisBl dbrn] (#53710) ![]() Scourge of Lions View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-07-06 15:05:04 |
it would also cull player sales by a huge % too, if not completely wipe them out. its hard enough to sell already ![]() |
Rubi [PrimalRosttNoctisBl dbrn] (#53710) ![]() Scourge of Lions View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-07-06 15:06:28 |
Kat (#24520)
Vicious View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-07-25 05:49:28 |
I have to dissagree, my idea is diffrent, I've never even seen that idea before. My idea gets rid of the lioness/lion/cub compleately it erases it from the system. It will also help payer to player sales beacuse there will be less cubs for sale and therefor drive up the prices, at the same time, money you get from the ugly cubs will help players buy the nicer cubs. This will help inprove the gene pool so we have beter looking and better stated lions. Also, please not that my idea was A) posted first and B) has a lot more thought and time put into it. It seemes rude to me that you would just stay my idea is like that one. ![]() Edited on 06/09/15 by Kat (#24520) |
Kat (#24520)
Vicious View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-07-25 05:51:38 |
Thank you everyone for the nice comments~! ![]() Edited on 25/07/15 by Kat (LAGS and LTFC) (#24520) |
Isabella Lena (#49545)
Impeccable View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-08-31 22:18:56 |
Ember, She/They (Kokuyo) (#69092) ![]() Impeccable View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-09-20 12:02:41 |
I support. I guess I'm a mass breeder. I keep trying to sell some of my cubs and they won't sell. Even the 1% and special bases! I've left my sunshine girl up for days and she hasn't sold. I want to make some money off her. Same with my ugly cubs. I don't even care if it's 5 SB. ![]() |