Posted by The Great Pride (200+ support!)

Kat (#24520)

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2015-06-03 09:12:02
***Wow! So much support! Yay~! Thanks guys~!***
**This idea has taken a lot of time to write out, and edit again and again. Please don't post responses that take only a few seconds to type out. If you have nothing to say to help me improve, please don't say it, I would like constructive reviews but not plain old criticism just pointing out what you don't like and not giving suggestions to improve the problem you see. Also I would appreciate it if you would respect the time and effort it took for me to make this idea. Thank you~!**


I was posting an advertisement for my lioness for what felt like the 100th time, it seemed at if she'd never sell! I sighed to myself, wishing there was a different way to get rid of them that would still earn me money for the breeding, feathers I used, time I spent with her, food I fed her. Then I had an idea. Why not have a lion NPC that buys lionesses and cubs, and prices them depending on things like stats, or number of markings. (P.S I finally managed to sell that lioness xD)
This is designed just to give you a bit of money back on a lioness that you breed that no one is buying, it doesn't give you much money, and it's designed that way, so that selling to to other players is still worth it. This will help the cub market as well since people who know their cub will not sell but want something from it. It will also add more money into the game, meaning people will be more likely to buy that cute cub and it will improve the gene pool as ugly cubs are removed from the game, players would be more likely to get rid of the ugly cubs with a "rewards system" of sorts in place for their efforts

How this would work:

Option 1) You would click on the link (from the explore area), that would bring you to a page with a drop down menu and a NPC lion that would say something about always looking for new lionesses/lions or cubs, you would then chose the lioness you want to sell to him from the drop down menu, and click a button next to the drop down menu, it would ask you "are you sure you want to sell this lioness, it is irreversible" you would click yes or no, then your lioness would vanish from your den, and you would have more SB!

Option 2) You encounter the lion as a uncommon explore NPC, it would say "a lion walks over to you, asking if a member of your pride would join his, he's offering SB" if you clicked yes it would then give you a drop down menu, you would pick the lioness you want to sell to him, and click a button next to the drop down menu, it would ask you "are you sure you want to sell this lioness, it is irreversible" you would click yes or no, then your lioness would vanish from your den, and you would have more SB!

Pricing:
Pricing would depend on stats, marking and or level. Here is a suggestion on how it would work. The pricing are designed in a way to keep people from just mass capturing NCLs to sell. Note: If possible, we could also make it impossible to sell NCL lionesses to the lion

Levels:
1-5: add no SB
6-10: add 10 SB 5 SB
11-20: add 15 SB 10 SB
21+: add 20 SB 15 SB

Stats:
Under 70: add no SB
70-99: add 10 SB 5 SB
100-199: add 20 SB 10 SB
200-299: add 30 SB 15 SB
300-399: add 40 SB 20 SB
400-499: add 50 SB 25 SB
500-599: add 60 SB 30 SB
600-699: add 70 SB 35 SB
700-799: add 80 SB 40 SB
800-899: add 90 SB 45 SB
900-999: add 100 SB 50 SB
1000+: add 110 SB 55 SB

Markings:
0-3 markings: no SB added
4-5 markings: add 5 SB 3 SB
6-10 markings: add 15 SB 5 SB

Bases(optional):
Common: no SB added
Special: 5 SB added


Examples:
-A level 8 Prune based lioness with 5 marks and 378 stats. Sadly no once wants your lioness since her markings don't necessarily look that good on her. She would sell for 55 30 SB or 60 35 SB with the optional base factor since it has a special base.
-A normal NCL lioness, you sent her hunting maybe once or twice so she's level 3, she has 3 marks, and 50 stats. Your trying to take advantage of the system and sell NCLs. She would sell for 0 SB or 0 SB with the base factor since it has a common base.
-A very nice cub, it's level 1, has grey base, has 6 markings and has 600 stats. Sadly it just isn't seeming to sell and you don't have the room for it in your den. This cub would sell for 75 40 SB or 75 40 SB with the base factor since it has a common base.
-The fail cub, it's level 1, has a Maltese base, and no markings, but it had 478 stats, you can't believe your lioness and that lovely stud made this cub! There is no way you could sell this cub. This cub would sell for 50 25 SB or 55 30 SB with the base factor since it has a special base.


Prices could be changed if everyone thinks they are to high/low. (Prices lowered: 1 time)(Prices raised: 0 times)

Pros to this:
1) Clean out the cub market
2) Make cub selling more profitable, less supply makes prices go up! (Witch balances out the extra SB people are making)
3) This will erase lionesses instead of turning them into NCL like chase does! So not only do we get more money, we get less NCLs in the market!
4) Help close the new player vs old player gab by letting everyone make money
5) Improve the genetics and stats of lioden by getting rid of the bad or undesirable lions, like natural selection!
6) Add something to the game to make casual players more happy (they've all been upset about cub mortality, maybe this will be like a little silver lining)

Other User's Suggestions:
1) Limit on how many lions sent a day/week/month
2)Only cubs born in your pride able to be sent or only cubs related to your main male able to be sent
3) Adds good karma (unlike kill)
4) Change it to a flat rate
5) Instead of just adding good karma add a"bad"lion to also give bad karma

Arguments:
A: Mass breeders will become rich
R: Mass breeders can already sell to the CC and get money like this, and, they spend lots of GB to get all those territory slots! There is also the option to add a caps on how many you can sell a week/month.
A: It's to much money for the lionesses
R: *Lowers pay*
A: It takes away the strategy part of the game
R: There's still strategy since it rewards better lions, and Lioden is categorized as a SIM game, not a strategy game
A: People could buy cheep cubs/lionesses and sell them for more with this NPC and make money.
R: These cheep cubs/lionesses wont be for sale anymore, the seller will just sell to the NPC on their own or will sell it at a higher rate to prevent this.



This suggestion has 224 supports and 7 NO supports.



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Edited on 17/02/16 @ 17:32:45 by Kat (#24520)

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Posted on
2015-12-08 23:43:25
We need this so much! *Breaks the support button*



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Kat (#24520)

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Posted on
2015-12-09 01:24:10
Haha xD Thank you!



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Black Rhinoceros (#68593)

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Posted on
2015-12-10 13:35:31
You have my support.



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{Leaving} (#43698)


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Posted on
2015-12-11 06:07:48
I really like this idea, but I feel like the limit on how many you can send in a day/week/month/etc is extremely necessary for this to work, if not mass breeders will just breed and breed and breed, even if they get just a few SB out of it they will do it, and also the bit about only being able to sell the ones that are born in your pride bit is important too, those two added bits will make sure it doesn't get out of hand



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Snark (#10774)

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Posted on
2015-12-13 13:18:26
I like the idea, but I feel like it would only contribute to the inflation of silver beetles right now. For example, I've seen up to 1500 sb right now to each gb, whereas it used to be like 900 sb to 1 gb. But yeah, throughout the game they've been added lots of things to help drain the extra sb from the market (slot machine, etc) & I feel like this would undo some of the work that's being made.

On the other hand, if this idea does go through, there should be limits on how many cubs you can sell each month, like Banshee said.



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Kat (#24520)

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Posted on
2015-12-13 13:28:02
The limit on how many cubs has been said a lot. The idea kind of already puts a cap on it (if you use option 2 making it an uncommon explore NPC) I have the "caps" idea and even a "flat rate" idea in the user suggested area! I also agree with the limit placed on it (I just hadn't really thought about it at the time xD).



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Kitkat (#51344)

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Posted on
2015-12-17 05:41:16
Support and *takes a deep breath*
What if you could also buy lionesses from him? This would also help me, being an orphanage pride, not fill up so much if people give to the Big Pride. I think the explore option is good and he can say "I'm looking for lionesses and I'll pay SB. But My lionesses are uncomfortable in crowded spaces and I have a lot. Care to take one?" *He isn't giving NCLs he's giving other player's lion/esses*



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Kat (#24520)

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2015-12-17 14:57:56
The point of the great pride is to get lionesses and cubs out of the game (So there are less in the market). These cubs and lionesses would most likely all have low stats and poor markings. Sorry, but he couldn't sell them as well, this would cause competitions between players trying to sell and the NPC as well as defeat the purpose of trying to get cubs and lionesses out of the market.
If the market wasn't the way it is now that would have been a great idea though!



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theRavenflight🇵ðŸ
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2016-01-13 09:17:08
What if there was like a page where we could go to to sell our lionesses? Like, a page that will have pictures of lionesses for sale, and their prices. And if someone buys your lioness, the SB goes to you?



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Terick (#82269)

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2016-01-23 16:28:43
I'm a little if-y on the idea (Just need to think it over for a while cause I don't see anything that could be majorly abused), but I'm leaning on supporting it!

@Raven, I think that's pretty much the trade center you just described. Minus the picture of the lioness, which you could probably suggest :P



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lolpeaceoutlol (#6100)

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2016-01-26 09:13:46
For the karma thing I would just say it gives no karma so neither good/bad lions get the benefit. Support from me!



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ClockKey (#74714)

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2016-02-18 09:04:17
Support! We're gonna have the Gorilla Enclave for Cubs, but maybe a little something for Lionesses would be cool ^-^



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