Posted by Inbreeding and Mutations

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Posted on
2015-08-04 12:57:48
So inbreeding is gross, we can agree on that. But it's possible ingame. In real life, animals that are inbred are more likely to have defects and mutations, shouldn't Lioden be the same?
I propose that inbreeding should raise the chances for a mutation. The more inbred a lion is, the more chance for a mutation to happen.
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Finnegan II (#85926)


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Posted on
2018-08-29 00:40:49
No support.

And I don't agree that "inbreeding" my pixel lions is "gross" because they're not people. Or even animals. They're pixels, so I'm not really sure you can enforce any manner of morality upon them, their pixel genitals, or their pixel children.

Most common muties are already extremely devalued and quite hard to sell for a reasonable price. What you're suggesting would further destabilize the market for mutations and, over time, lower the value of the few mutations that are currently holding their value.

Increasing the chance for a lethal mutation is just going to devalue lethal muties even further. Increasing the chance for a "random" mutation will steadily lower the value of all muties over time.

Lion markets are volatile enough without this... whatever this is. Buy some GMO cows next month if you want muties,

Not only that, but I think people who are "against" inbreeding on this site severely underestimate the amount of inbreeding that goes on in the wild without ill effect.

"In lions, prides are often followed by related males in bachelor groups. When the dominant male is killed or driven off by one of these bachelors, a father may be replaced by his son. There is no mechanism for preventing inbreeding or to ensure outcrossing. In the prides, most lionesses are related to one another. If there is more than one dominant male, the group of alpha males are usually related. Two lines are then being "line bred". Also, in some populations, such as the Crater lions, it is known that a population bottleneck has occurred. Researchers found far greater genetic heterozygosity than expected.[36] In fact, predators are known for low genetic variance, along with most of the top portion of the trophic levels of an ecosystem.[37] Additionally, the alpha males of two neighboring prides can be from the same litter; one brother may come to acquire leadership over another's pride, and subsequently mate with his 'nieces' or cousins. However, killing another male's cubs, upon the takeover, allows the new selected gene complement of the incoming alpha male to prevail over the previous male. There are genetic assays being scheduled for lions to determine their genetic diversity. The preliminary studies show results inconsistent with the outcrossing paradigm based on individual environments of the studied groups.[36]"

Click me for the article.

Wikipedia links the sources well enough at the bottom for you.



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Kit in a Box ~🪽~ (#61961)


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Posted on
2018-08-31 19:19:54
Finnegan summed it up nicely.
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