Stud Racing: The process of sending multiple stud requests for one lioness to 2 or more lions.

I have yet to come across a stud racer but I have heard the term and found a post dedicated to stud racing. At first I thought nothing of it until I got clarification. People with high valued studs have had an issue with people sending a breeding request to their stud, then sending 10 other studs a request for the same lioness. I noticed VLF lionesses are the ones mainly used for stud racing as it takes longer to in-pregnant them. The issue I see, (after breeding my own VLF's) and others see is; you spend 50% of energy trying to in-pregnant a lioness, while at the same time ANOTHER lion is also trying with that same female. Now say it wasn't you that got her pregnant but the other lion...you just wasted 50% of your energy and the breeding items you may or may not have used on your male, plus your stud payment.

I see stud Racing as a type of free breeding in a way as to say, the male that wasted his energy/items on your girl, did it for nothing. I do not see that as fair and personally count those attempts as breeding attempts I would want to be compensated for.

My suggestions for this is to either;
A) Change the system to where you can send ONE breeding request per female and if you wish to send another, cancel the previous
Flipicus: You would get the option to tick/untick a box which creates different text above/below the stud rules section, for example:
'This player DOES NOT accept stud race requests- you will not be able to send another request for your lioness unless you remove theirs first' when its turned off.
OR
'This player accepts stud race requests, they will be notified if you send other requests for your lioness' when it's turned on.
Or~
B) If the system is to stay the same, the male that wasted his energy on the female, gets half the amount of SB his studding fee was, (I.E your males fee is 500, if the female is stud raced to another male that gets her pregnant you are given 250 either from that player or the game itself) so their males time and energy wasn't wasted for no reason. ( this would not count if they stud request is rejected by the lion, or taken back by the females owner ).
Axel's suggestion:
As compensation, there should be something that mirrors the effort of the stud.
The more times he tried to breed her, the more % of the stud price he will get.
There should be a certain number of tries where the stud owner would get the whole price as a compensation if another stud made the girl pregnant (or if the owner of the girl took the girl out of the stud's list). I think this is the most fair.

Or~
C) (just throwing this in, this can be combined with A or B) Allow the males to set a certain % limit that blocks out any lionesses below that limit. I know most people don't check it, but the game itself should know right?


I can understand the need to in-pregnant a VLF in the 3 days it's in heat by sending multiple request for the same female to different lions, but think of it this way. If you spent half your energy/day/items trying to breed a VLF and another lion beats you to it. You just wasted time and energy for nothing. As Dunnart stated, this can be seen as taken advantage of the males effort for your own personal gain, while leaving the male stuck out and possible irritated.


I am not sure if it would work, especially because what if the player wasted 100% energy or 50% energy on the girl and goes off, and in the mean time the girl gets pregnant by another stud, the extra 50%-100% energy gets added right away/or after the user logs in. BUT. The energy will replenish every 15 mins for 10%, even if the player is offline. Wouldnt he lose the additional energy once he gets back because his energy replenished anyway? In addition to the game giving back SB, maybe (the Developers can decide) To give back boosters or boost items for the energy used

Other Suggestions by users:
Pine 62380~> Perhaps, if the person is to send another breeding request to another male, and that male gets the lioness pregnant, the male whom she studded first gets his energy back?
Reebuh 3487~ I can agree with all of it, save for part B & C of your plan. I think sending one request per lioness until a) the stud accepts/rejects or b) the owner of the lioness takes the studding back needs to implemented, instead of just allowing it to continue to happen. Some people don't have the SB for part B of your idea, and receiving the energy back just seems like more coding that's going to take up more space, just like part B would. I think removing part B & C would make this more easily supportable, just flat out removing the option to spam requests and only let there be one request per lion.

YoungLioness 15579~ I admit to having done at least one of these stud races with a 1% girl, but I've always rewarded participants with at least 200sb for their efforts. I've also been a participant in a stud race, and know the feeling of working hard with a lioness only to be unsuccessful and gain nothing in return .I think B would be the best option to go with, and C could be a separate support thread all on its own!

Dunart 29090~I've noticed some stud owners don't mind when they're 'stud raced' while others don't want anything to do with VLF's at all. Perhaps Options A and C (and maybe B as well) could be incorporated into the game in a way that would allow each user to set their studding service to what suits them best? If Option B isn't added as a possible setting, it'd probably be best if people could still choose to keep things as they are so they can be especially VLF friendly if they want.

If your support is no, please provide a reason as to why you said no, so I can try to better this idea