Thanks for clarifying about the battles Katze, appreciate it!

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I remember getting like, 200 blood beetles a day, and people thought even that was slow. This is actually excruciating xD

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I like the gifting incentive, tbh; in previous years, gifting always lagged behind pooping because of poop bundles giving the chance for more stink bugs, so this year it's nice seeing people actually wanting to gift. IMO the chance of stink bugs from bundles IS the pooping incentive.

That said, I support this because it would be nice if people didn't feel like they were having to /rely/ on getting poop bundles just to get event currency. There are so many event encounters this month (especially once you include all the different snuh encounters) and so many of them don't give anything/are just sort of there for flavor... it would be nice if those would at least toss out a single stink bug.

December is such a busy month for so many players due to final exams and/or holiday obligations, there are a lot of event encounters that don't give any currency, and you can only gift/poop until the 25th, so it really feels like this event is stacked against the players in terms of earning currency (and just FEELS even moreso coming off of October and November, both of which are relatively easy months to earn currency). IMO December should be the EASIEST month for currency, just to fit the time of year and the more relaxed/sort of silly atmosphere of the event in general.

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well said msasi! I don't think people should have to feel stressed during what is supposed to be a fun event ontop of real-life holiday stuff.

I am hopeful we get a tweak in tomorrow's update.

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Agreed. The drop rate for Stink Bugs is a total JOKE.

Look at all those pretty applicators in the shop that we'll never get. -_- I've been active everyday since the beginning of December - and I've only gotten 75 Stink Bugs. That's a fucking JOKE.

I understand the shop bases should be rare but for fuck's sake, at least give us another way to get them, like with the Festive Base. Being able to poop on people 888 times for the Frostbitten base would've been better. I despise events that rarely drop any currency. There's no motivation to participate that way.

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Don't forget, our chance at stinkbugs from bundles ends after the 25th, can't get more bundles :( So 6 days of relying on explore. Maybe we will get a christmas miracle and a few get adjusted

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I have gotten 200 on my main and 90ish on my alt in total of exploring over the course of 16 days :/

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As a person that does not live on this game due to work and college, the drop rate is WAY too low for the amount of useless encounters there are.

I’ve only been able to save up for one applicator that I wanted after days of exploring. In the November event I was able to buy 4+ applicators. Am I saying that we should be able to buy everything in the store? No, but we should be able to reasonably buy 2 applicators and 2 decors minimum.

So I’ll support this, I think that the drop amount needs to be increased either via the number of stink bugs from each encounter or making each of these encounters give you at least 1. Otherwise, ill say that the prices in the mantis shop need to be dropped, this is my favorite event as far as items go, so it sucks to not be able to afford 90% of it.

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There really does need to be more ways to get stink bugs. As of right now I only have 301 stink beetles on this account on the 21st. That's barely enough to buy 2 of the new base and nothing else besides it. There will also be even less stink bugs then normal because of the new gifting incentive which is causing poops to lag behind for the first time ever.

Something needs to change here.

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Yeah, the way to acquire the festive base means this event needs a mild update for real now. I've never seen a year where there are twice as many gifts as poops.

For folks like me, who have a lot to do over the holidays and can't spend 12hrs a day spamming "poop me" on the boards? I got 150 bundles and almost all of them were junk (not complaining, that's what happens when you barely participate). Last year at least they were mostly poop.

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Got a few more days for a full assessment, but imma put some statistics

I play Lioden at work, which is nearly 8 straight hours of playing, waiting for energy bars to fill up and exploring constantly. I also have a second account that I was playing also constantly and transferring stinkbugs to my main from

By my estimates, I collectEd 427 stinkbugs total up til Christmas. I bought Festive Garland, Jingle Bell Harness, and Holiday lights for a total of 84 stinkbugs at the beginning of the month. I did not buy anything else until Christmas after opening bundles

Christmas Day, I had 343 stinkbugs before opening bundles

I was in chat constantly and towards the end I was in a couple of poop threads, and amassed 622 Bundles total. After opening, I amassed 342 Stinkbugs from poop bundles.

My side had 124 bundles, and I received 42 stinkbugs from poop bundles

Dec. 25th, I have 42 stinkbugs sitting on my account at the moment

Between December 25th and December 31st, I accrued a total of 213 Stinkbugs

Final total: 1024 Stinkbugs

I encourage less active people to post their statistics with some exact or general numbers as I have, and even anyone that’s been more active too! User Log helped to see what I purchased, but it unfortunately doesn’t tell you how many stinkbugs you collect from explore so my numbers may be a little off give or take a few stinkbugs. Hope this assessment is helpful for next year to helping the stinkbug drop rate.

Input from the mods that deal with this stuff would be greatly appreciated at this point

In the end, I was able to get 5 apps, 3 jolly poses, Festive Garland, Jingle Bell Harness, Albino Pygmy Owl, Melinistic Barn Owl, Pearl and Flower Ornament [Black], and Holiday Lights

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I got 148stb this year. I can’t log in every 2 hours and explore either, I got 1 stbtoday from exploring.

This has to change. It’s brutal! Especially when it’s poops that give beetlesand not everyone poops.

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Another idea would be to just make gifts have a chance to drop stink bugs as well. Give them the same drop rate as from poop, give pooping a base applicator incentive of its own, then gifting and pooping are more equal and people don't have to worry as much about one vs the other due to karma and the bars would probably fill a bit more evenly. I suppose you could argue that it's unfair that you have a chance to get an item AND a stink bug from a gift, buuuut let's face it, most gifts people are getting is basic explore junk, so I figure it's not too bad. "You open a gift from Msasi; it's a Hornbill Butt Feather! Oh, what's this? You find a stink bug hidden beneath it. Nice!"

I do still think that adding more stink bug drops from explore is the ideal (and maybe retire some of the explore encounters that do nothing, just so there's not so many different event encounters in rotation?). Super active players will always earn more event currency than more casual players, but the level to which this event favors activity (during a time of year when a lot of people are super busy with school/holiday stuff) to get bundles has always felt bad.

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