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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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2017-09-16 02:31:17
Are you more into mane shapes? Then the Mane Genetics Thread is here for you

Want to check out a particular combo quickly? Use ctrl + f and type its name, or use the "search on site" option if you are using a cellphone :)



Wiki entry about Combo Bases

This began as a way to share theories about possible combinations, but then things got way bigger than expected. A lot of people have invested a lot of currency in the scrying stone to see if we were right about combos, and here is the result :D

But wait... What are combo bases?



When you breed two lions with the right combination of bases, their cubs roll a further, extra chance that can result in a third, new base, a "combo" base. Each combo base has its own requirements, and these bases often ignore the set genetic rules: for example, the Cairngorm combo base (Black Light Solid Special genetics) can be obtained by breeding a Celestial lion (Black Dark Countershaded Special genetics) and a Cocoa lioness (Black Medium Countershaded Rare genetics). Most combo bases can be passed down as long as one parent has it and further requirements are met if there are any, with the exception of Pulsar and Temporal.

*Since the 12th October update, cubs that have triggered the original combo bases - Cairngorm, Citrine, Madagascar or Qahir - have a 50% chance of getting their respective mane color, and these can be inherited like any other mane color!

Right now there are two different types of combo bases: "standard" combos and "factor" combos. Factor ones can be obtined by breeding any of the bases that make up the combo, but standard ones can be obtained by more than one combination of bases that are assembled into two different groups. The combo can trigger as long as the parents have bases that belong to a different combo group (not to be mistaken by the genetic color group).

*Note: While some of the following standard combo tables have been completed, there may be some combinations that remain undiscovered yet.

Standard combos:





Arabica

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Arabica by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black



  • Buttercream

  • Buttermilk






Asiatic

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Asiatic by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Dun

  • Gray



  • Cream

  • White






Black Rose

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Black Rose by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar



  • Jet

  • Obsidian

  • Onyx






Cairngorm

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Cairngorm by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Celestial

  • Ice

  • Sidereal

  • Skyward



  • Cocoa

  • Ethereal

  • Pearl

  • Slate






Citrine

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Citrine by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar

  • Kimanjano

  • Topaz

  • Xanthic



  • Cherry Blossom

  • Fiery

  • Fulvous

  • Sulphur






Cloudburst

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Cloudburst by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Chartreux

  • Korat

  • Maltese






Elysian

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Elisyan by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Ice



  • Divine

  • Ebony






Ember

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Ember by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Blazing

  • Fiery



  • Flint

  • Pewter






Hellebore

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Hellebore by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Lilac



  • Goldenrod

  • Udara






Madagascar

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Madagascar by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Sapela

  • Sepia

  • Shedua

  • Unholy



  • Ivory

  • Nacre

  • Sunset

  • Supernal






Nadir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Nadir by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black Rose

  • Ebony



  • Ardor

  • Hellebore

  • Rhodonite






Pulsar

This base can only be obtained via combo during July, but can be passed down by breeding two Pulsar based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Pulsar by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Arctic



  • Anjeer

  • Blazing

  • Inferno

  • Prune






Qahir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Qahir by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Buff

  • Cameo

  • Hallowed

  • Russet



  • Chartreux

  • Glacial

  • Hematite

  • Opal






Snowflake

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Snowflake by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Arctic

  • Aufeis

  • Frostbitten

  • Glacial

  • Ice






Temporal

This base can only be obtained via combo during October, but can be passed down by breeding two Temporal based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Temporal by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Unholy



  • Bast

  • Sunset




Factor combos:





Gilded

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Gilded by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Anubis



  • Bast



  • Seth






Olive

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Olive by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Caramel



  • Xanthic






Rose Gold

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Rose Gold by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Alabaster



  • Sha



  • Velvet






Soul

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Soul by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Ivory



  • Ebony





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Edited on 19/12/19 @ 03:40:35 by Jingle Bere (#84593)

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2018-03-27 06:46:51
Ice, perhaps, but isn't Slate a bit too dark, to make up the blue of Cloudburst? Or maybe not... Guess I'm still hanging on the thought that Ice and Slate have been used on a multi-combo before and so I just don't take them into account, sorry :'D



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muttduck (#78)

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2018-03-27 06:48:44
I tried Sterling to Cream 20 tries, Silver to Cream (20 tries), Silver Gray to Cream (20 tries) and got nothing. (Looking for Asiatic) I also tried Ashen to Cream, and while nothing new appeared, it did show a teardrop, lol.

I feel like Eggshell and Isabel may be on the other side, but I'm out of SB for now.



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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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2018-03-27 06:59:04
Hmm. I suspect that for Asiatic we have one group to give the grey tones to the base, and then another to give the lighter gradient. If Ashen were to be part of the combo, it'd make more sense to me if it were on the group with Cream and White, not along with Dun and Gray. I suspect Eggshell or Isabel might be in the "cream group", too, but what about Almond, Antler and Light Cream? They're the lighter of the cream commons. But what if White is an exception, and the rest of the bases be more like Cream...? We'd have Persimmon, Hazelnut...



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Juminakata (River) (#6903)

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2018-03-27 17:19:25
I tried light cream with gray a hecka lot, got nothing. I'll do some more research when I have more sb



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2018-03-27 20:25:30
I tried almost every middle to light gray base with cream and got nothing, but luck may just not have been on my side. I've tried a few creamish/whiteish with dun and gotten nowhere. xD

Also, I noticed that they listed Cloudburst as a common base on the wiki...?



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2018-03-27 20:26:09
Cloudburst is a common base!!



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Elvago (#89173)

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Posted on
2018-03-27 20:27:29
Will that make it any easier to produce than the others?



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Lithium (#4297)


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2018-03-27 20:27:30
Oh so it is! That's weird. I expected all the combos would be specials.



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2018-03-27 20:28:24
I hope it makes it easier ;-; it's so prettyyyyyy



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2018-03-27 20:29:14
That would be nice I have put so many SB onto breeding for an olive cub with no luck so far.



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klara0o[PFM]Mott
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2018-03-28 07:59:29
Is the scrying stone broken again? Few days ago it showed that korat x albino passes cloudburst after just 3 tries and I wanted to check it today but no luck after 30 tries



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2018-03-28 08:10:47
Yesterday it said that we were 3 days away from the dry season, and today I RO and it was wet season for some reason. The scrying stone wasn't supposed to show Cloudburst outside of the wet season, so my guess? Wheather machine is broken :'D



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klara0o[PFM]Mott
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2018-03-28 08:16:22
I wanted to check malteese for cloudburst as I have one in heat :/



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Posted on
2018-03-28 10:53:44
I checked albino x korat in the scry today and was able to get cloudburst.



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2018-03-28 11:07:26
Must be luck, then.



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