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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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2017-09-16 02:31:17
Are you more into mane shapes? Then the Mane Genetics Thread is here for you

Want to check out a particular combo quickly? Use ctrl + f and type its name, or use the "search on site" option if you are using a cellphone :)



Wiki entry about Combo Bases

This began as a way to share theories about possible combinations, but then things got way bigger than expected. A lot of people have invested a lot of currency in the scrying stone to see if we were right about combos, and here is the result :D

But wait... What are combo bases?



When you breed two lions with the right combination of bases, their cubs roll a further, extra chance that can result in a third, new base, a "combo" base. Each combo base has its own requirements, and these bases often ignore the set genetic rules: for example, the Cairngorm combo base (Black Light Solid Special genetics) can be obtained by breeding a Celestial lion (Black Dark Countershaded Special genetics) and a Cocoa lioness (Black Medium Countershaded Rare genetics). Most combo bases can be passed down as long as one parent has it and further requirements are met if there are any, with the exception of Pulsar and Temporal.

*Since the 12th October update, cubs that have triggered the original combo bases - Cairngorm, Citrine, Madagascar or Qahir - have a 50% chance of getting their respective mane color, and these can be inherited like any other mane color!

Right now there are two different types of combo bases: "standard" combos and "factor" combos. Factor ones can be obtined by breeding any of the bases that make up the combo, but standard ones can be obtained by more than one combination of bases that are assembled into two different groups. The combo can trigger as long as the parents have bases that belong to a different combo group (not to be mistaken by the genetic color group).

*Note: While some of the following standard combo tables have been completed, there may be some combinations that remain undiscovered yet.

Standard combos:





Arabica

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Arabica by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black



  • Buttercream

  • Buttermilk






Asiatic

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Asiatic by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Dun

  • Gray



  • Cream

  • White






Black Rose

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Black Rose by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar



  • Jet

  • Obsidian

  • Onyx






Cairngorm

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Cairngorm by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Celestial

  • Ice

  • Sidereal

  • Skyward



  • Cocoa

  • Ethereal

  • Pearl

  • Slate






Citrine

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Citrine by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar

  • Kimanjano

  • Topaz

  • Xanthic



  • Cherry Blossom

  • Fiery

  • Fulvous

  • Sulphur






Cloudburst

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Cloudburst by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Chartreux

  • Korat

  • Maltese






Elysian

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Elisyan by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Ice



  • Divine

  • Ebony






Ember

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Ember by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Blazing

  • Fiery



  • Flint

  • Pewter






Hellebore

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Hellebore by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Lilac



  • Goldenrod

  • Udara






Madagascar

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Madagascar by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Sapela

  • Sepia

  • Shedua

  • Unholy



  • Ivory

  • Nacre

  • Sunset

  • Supernal






Nadir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Nadir by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black Rose

  • Ebony



  • Ardor

  • Hellebore

  • Rhodonite






Pulsar

This base can only be obtained via combo during July, but can be passed down by breeding two Pulsar based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Pulsar by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Arctic



  • Anjeer

  • Blazing

  • Inferno

  • Prune






Qahir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Qahir by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Buff

  • Cameo

  • Hallowed

  • Russet



  • Chartreux

  • Glacial

  • Hematite

  • Opal






Snowflake

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Snowflake by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Arctic

  • Aufeis

  • Frostbitten

  • Glacial

  • Ice






Temporal

This base can only be obtained via combo during October, but can be passed down by breeding two Temporal based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Temporal by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Unholy



  • Bast

  • Sunset




Factor combos:





Gilded

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Gilded by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Anubis



  • Bast



  • Seth






Olive

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Olive by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Caramel



  • Xanthic






Rose Gold

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Rose Gold by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Alabaster



  • Sha



  • Velvet






Soul

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Soul by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Ivory



  • Ebony





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Edited on 19/12/19 @ 03:40:35 by Jingle Bere (#84593)

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2018-03-28 12:38:50
Is there a way to make a Failed Testing Section so there can be a list of what's been tried excessively with no outcome so people can test other combos? I can see people wasting SB trying out combos that have had over 100 tries with no success Maybe if they knew what not to try we could unlock the other bases quicker because people will be trying more variety.

Of course just because 100 test came back fail doesn't mean it's not in the combo, so maybe put a disclaimer that these aren't confirmed fail bases.



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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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2018-03-28 13:32:45
I can try to go back to all the replies and make a compilation of sorts, but given the different ways people keep track of their tries, it may end up being useless. Not today, though, my internet is acting up.



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IntoxicatedGhost (#29611)

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2018-03-28 15:48:52
So Cloud won’t even show in the Scrying Stone if it’s not the wet season?



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Torquil (#53504)

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Posted on
2018-03-28 16:05:04
Correct.



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Leigh (#95948)

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Posted on
2018-03-28 19:08:21
I tried Eggshell x Korat - no go :( I think I did about 30 tries or so.



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Juminakata (River) (#6903)

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2018-03-28 19:33:29
gave white (71) and birch (54) some scry testing with my malt side boy. No go, lotsa Chart tho



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Posted on
2018-03-29 07:21:28
Did 75 tries silver x korat -failed



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Torquil (#53504)

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2018-03-29 12:38:26
Base 2's Tried
Moonstone
Sterling
White
Silver
Birch
Eggshell
Ashen
Dun
Silver Gray
Ivory
Light Cream

May have missed some. Going to pick a few more white-ish bases and come back.



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2018-03-29 12:39:43
Maybe the 2nd group is all commons?



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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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Posted on
2018-03-29 12:40:13
Maybe the 2nd group is all albino



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Torquil (#53504)

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Posted on
2018-03-29 12:43:36
Berenos - Could very well be.
Need more albino for your albino!

Testing black solids...

Light Common - Albino, Birch, Eggshell, Isabel, White

I'm gonna run through eggshell a few more times.
I feel Birch has been tested enough.
Albino is confirmed.
White has been tested enough.

So...

Korat x Eggshell (100 times) - Negative.
Korat x Isabel (100 times) - Negative.



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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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2018-03-29 12:45:28
I can't remember if this was suggested, but what about Sterling? That base has some very light white highlights.



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2018-03-29 12:46:14
I did Sterling yesterday, it yielded nothing from my end. D:



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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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Posted on
2018-03-29 12:52:22
Hmm, tried 40 times Maltese x Sterling and nothing.



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Posted on
2018-03-29 12:56:56
Gonna try a couple white-ish creams.

Korat x Almond - Negative.
Korat x Ethereal - Negative.
Korat x Antler - Negative.
Korat x Vanilla - Negative.
Korat x Light Cream - Negative.
Korat x Beige - Negative.

Maybe it is only albino. :P



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