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Are you more into mane shapes? Then the Mane Genetics Thread is here for you

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Wiki entry about Combo Bases

This began as a way to share theories about possible combinations, but then things got way bigger than expected. A lot of people have invested a lot of currency in the scrying stone to see if we were right about combos, and here is the result :D

But wait... What are combo bases?



When you breed two lions with the right combination of bases, their cubs roll a further, extra chance that can result in a third, new base, a "combo" base. Each combo base has its own requirements, and these bases often ignore the set genetic rules: for example, the Cairngorm combo base (Black Light Solid Special genetics) can be obtained by breeding a Celestial lion (Black Dark Countershaded Special genetics) and a Cocoa lioness (Black Medium Countershaded Rare genetics). Most combo bases can be passed down as long as one parent has it and further requirements are met if there are any, with the exception of Pulsar and Temporal.

*Since the 12th October update, cubs that have triggered the original combo bases - Cairngorm, Citrine, Madagascar or Qahir - have a 50% chance of getting their respective mane color, and these can be inherited like any other mane color!

Right now there are two different types of combo bases: "standard" combos and "factor" combos. Factor ones can be obtined by breeding any of the bases that make up the combo, but standard ones can be obtained by more than one combination of bases that are assembled into two different groups. The combo can trigger as long as the parents have bases that belong to a different combo group (not to be mistaken by the genetic color group).

*Note: While some of the following standard combo tables have been completed, there may be some combinations that remain undiscovered yet.

Standard combos:





Arabica

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Arabica by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black



  • Buttercream

  • Buttermilk






Asiatic

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Asiatic by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Dun

  • Gray



  • Cream

  • White






Black Rose

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Black Rose by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar



  • Jet

  • Obsidian

  • Onyx






Cairngorm

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Cairngorm by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Celestial

  • Ice

  • Sidereal

  • Skyward



  • Cocoa

  • Ethereal

  • Pearl

  • Slate






Citrine

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Citrine by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar

  • Kimanjano

  • Topaz

  • Xanthic



  • Cherry Blossom

  • Fiery

  • Fulvous

  • Sulphur






Cloudburst

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Cloudburst by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Chartreux

  • Korat

  • Maltese






Elysian

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Elisyan by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Ice



  • Divine

  • Ebony






Ember

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Ember by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Blazing

  • Fiery



  • Flint

  • Pewter






Hellebore

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Hellebore by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Lilac



  • Goldenrod

  • Udara






Madagascar

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Madagascar by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Sapela

  • Sepia

  • Shedua

  • Unholy



  • Ivory

  • Nacre

  • Sunset

  • Supernal






Nadir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Nadir by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black Rose

  • Ebony



  • Ardor

  • Hellebore

  • Rhodonite






Pulsar

This base can only be obtained via combo during July, but can be passed down by breeding two Pulsar based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Pulsar by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Arctic



  • Anjeer

  • Blazing

  • Inferno

  • Prune






Qahir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Qahir by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Buff

  • Cameo

  • Hallowed

  • Russet



  • Chartreux

  • Glacial

  • Hematite

  • Opal






Snowflake

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Snowflake by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Arctic

  • Aufeis

  • Frostbitten

  • Glacial

  • Ice






Temporal

This base can only be obtained via combo during October, but can be passed down by breeding two Temporal based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Temporal by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Unholy



  • Bast

  • Sunset




Factor combos:





Gilded

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Gilded by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Anubis



  • Bast



  • Seth






Olive

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Olive by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Caramel



  • Xanthic






Rose Gold

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Rose Gold by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Alabaster



  • Sha



  • Velvet






Soul

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Soul by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Ivory



  • Ebony





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Edited on 19/12/19 @ 03:40:35 by Jingle Bere (#84593)

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2019-08-10 04:50:56
@Kalika

I'll try to add that when I have the time! I was thinking about doing that with the "spoiler" toggle, so it doesn't take as much space :'D



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2019-08-10 04:56:06
Ember's combo has been added!! Anyone has any suspicions what its criteria could be? Maybe it will be breedable only during dry season? :o



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2019-08-10 05:02:04
I'd say either during dry season or August only.



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2019-08-10 07:05:22
News state: "A new combo base is now available to be bred during special circumstances!
Ember is a Golden Dark Countershaded Special base that can be bred from now on year-round from the following factor bases"

It's specifically stated that it cab be breed all year around with the factor bases, so it can't be only during August



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2019-08-10 14:47:51
Just bred this ember girl! https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794130230225



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2019-08-12 03:54:23
Ooh, congrats @klara!! Sorry for the late reply, I'm currently on vacation but that's awesome!



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2019-09-05 04:41:56
Confirmed by the scrying stone
Fuschia × Trophy can produce;
Topaz
Doubloon
Cinnabar
Sulphur



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2019-09-05 04:47:16
@Sunflower

I appreciate it, but none of those bases you've listed are combo bases :'D



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2019-09-12 08:12:45
Are we any closer to figuring out what the ember mystery conditions are?



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2019-09-12 08:17:06
Not that I know of, sorry Roseeye



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2019-09-12 08:19:52
Ah, alas :'D It doesn't seem to be as big of a hinderance like wet season breeding is on cloudburst, since there's quite a few embers already, but it doesn't seem to be a dry season thing either since there was just that poll about if there should be a dry season base



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2019-09-12 08:38:43
Hmmm. I would have guessed dry season since all the bases have something to do with heat or fire. TBH I didn't even realize there was another condition.



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Edited on 12/09/19 @ 08:38:58 by Snowcat14-Ebony-Clean Ferus (#53580)

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2019-09-12 08:39:36
I know right XD What ever it is isn't that restricting. Maybe the breeding has to take place during the day?



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2019-09-12 08:40:58
Ember has no additional requirements per the news post announcing it. I'd say it's just a normal functioning combo base.



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2019-09-12 08:42:15
"New Combo Base!
A new combo base is now available to be bred during special circumstances!
Ember is a Golden Dark Countershaded Special base that can be bred from now on year-round from the following factor bases:
Factor 1: Blazing, Fiery
Factor 2: Flint, Pewter"

It does, they just never told us what it was XD



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