Posted by Iridescent Gradient and Existing Base Adjustment

Alma (#7695)

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2017-12-11 19:46:30
Hello, fellow Liodenners! I, like many of you, have been following the Iridescent debate with great interest, and after some consideration, I think I might have some suggestions that most of you might support. As I began to think about what Iridescent could mean for me, I decided that, while I think it would be disastrous as a color group, I think it would be great as a gradient as other players have suggested. To view the original two threads, click on these:
Natanocte's Original Suggestion
From Xy's News Post


If you're like me and you've decided that Iridescent as a gradient is an intriguing idea, I'd like to propose that bases' gradients are sorted by the following simple criteria:

* The base displays one color or the overall impression of one color with little to no shift in color = Solid, like Onyx
* The base displays two colors that shift from one to another = Countershaded (perhaps we shorten it to "Shaded"?), like Fiery
* The base displays three or more colors that shift from one to the next = Iridescent, like Nacre


While I began the daunting task of sorting the existing bases, it quickly became apparent that this model needed filling out, and I realized that this could be a perfect opportunity to showcase the FABULOUS bases that have been suggested in our forums! As I thought a little more, I considered that it has been bothering me that the Golden and Cream shades have been needing some serious TLC for awhile now, and I'd seen, loved, and supported so many of these in the forums. I knew what I needed to do: I contacted each of these amazing artists for permission to place their bases into this chart to showcase them and prove how vibrant and wonderful this chart could be with them included!

I also wanted to suggest moving a few bases whose placement didn't sit right with me, namely Bloodborne, which I'd love to see moved to Red/Dark/COUNTERSHADED/Special, Cairngorm, which would look better as Black/Light/COUNTERSHADED/Special, and the proposed Honey, which I see as a CREAM/Dark/Solid/Common, Mauve, which I see as a Red/Medium/Iridescent/Common, Cherry Blossom, which might be nice as a Red/Iridescent/Light/Special.

With that said, here's what the color charts could look like if they were expanded to accommodate an Iridescent gradient, some lovely user-created bases, and a few placement readjustments. The bases with a heavy, black border and are represented with lionesses are user-created.

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* Eclipse, Silk, Charcoal, Cloud, Alabaster, Ocean, Ink, and Chiffon created by cake, #53239
* Fallen created by Natanocte, #61
* Velvet created by lex, #56485
* Mountain created by Cannibal Chaos, #18906
* Charcoal, Black Ice, and Snowflake created by kite, #3540
* Chiaroscuro, Cygnet and Grizzly created by Snowboa, #360


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*Parmesan, Satin, Meringue, Lumber, Carob, Peanut, Shellac, Chalk, Feldspar, Granola, Magnolia, Sugar, Powder, Oyster, Peridot, and Porcelain created by cake, #53239
* Kavu, Zemvelo, and Asada created by Natanocte, #61
* Radiance created by Cannibal Chaos, #18906
* Andromeda and Astraios created by lex, #56485
* Red Dun, Mud, Smoky Cream, and Buckskin created by kite, #3540
* Barley, created by Snowboa, #360


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* Maple, Soy, Embers, Pumpkin, and Cardinal created by cake, #53239
* Cranberry, Tafaha, Bewitched, and Imbe created by Natanocte, #61
* Pecan Pie and Himbasha created by Cannibal Chaos, #18906
* Firebrand, Red Fleabitten, and and Violet Liver created by kite, #3540
* Bloodwood, Rosewater, Rhubarb, and Padparadascha created by Snowboa, #360


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*Dijon, Medallion, Honey, Flax, Citron, Walnut, Antique, Marigold, Canary, Dandelion, Corn, and Maize created by cake, #53239
*Damu, Ailurus, Dhahabi, Maziwa, Muzlala, Wahushi, Gilded, Mobola, Cervine, Anubian, Avarice, Frankincense, Sandstone, Ornament, Splendor, Asali, Caramelized, Marumaru, and Jackal created by Natanocte, #61
*Cunieform, Asida, and Mandasi created by Cannibal Chaos, #18906
* Orange Sherbet, Twilight, and Black Gold created by kite, #3540
* Toast created by Snowboa, #360



Do you love these user-suggested bases the way that I do? Let the dev's know by lending them support on their threads! Here's a list of threads by their artist/author:

* Natanocte, #61:
Cobalt, Spice, Bewitched, Fallen, Touched
Frankincense, Cranberry, Ornament
Damu, Maziwa, Anubian, Tafaha, Vulpine, Ailurus, Cervine

* cake, #53239:
Maple, Soy, Butter, Shellac, Walnut, Alabaster, Chalk, Magnolia, Silk
Dijon, Medallion, Feldspar, Aurum, Peridot, Porcelain, Powder, Corn, Dandelion, Maize, Marigold, Canary, Meringue, Lumber, Salt
Ink, Ocean
Charcoal
Pumpkin, Cardinal

* lex, #56485:
Astraios, Andromeda, Velvet

* Cannibal Chaos, #18906:
Radiance, Mountain
Cunieform, Asida, Mandasi, Pecan Pie, Oatmeal

* kite, #3540:
Red Dun, Black Gold, Red Fleabitten, Smoky Cream, Violet Liver, Charcoal, Black Ice, Orange Sherbet, Firebrand, Snowflake, Twilight, Buckskin, Mud

* Snowboa, #360:
Chiaroscuro, Cygnet, Grizzly, Barley, Bloodwood, Rosewater, Rhubarb, Padparadascha, Carnelian, Toast (I renamed some to avoid overlap of others' names!)

NOTE: These are only my suggestions: I have NO IDEA if/where/when these bases might be released or placed in the chart!

I know there's already been quite a bit of discussion about an Iridescent gradient, but I wanted to, in my own crude, computer-illiterate, old-person fashion, show what a chart like this might look like in its infancy, how beautifully it can be filled out with event and user-created bases, and how much room there is to grow!

I'd love to hear from you all and don't forget to support these fantastic artists on their own threads and see these bases as they'd look in-game instead of my thumbnail pictures. Thanks to all of you who have contributed ideas, art, and time to this idea and for allowing me to run with it!



This suggestion has 381 supports and 31 NO supports.



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Edited on 15/09/19 @ 14:27:08 by Alma (#7695)

Kristen (#67627)

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Posted on
2018-02-04 19:35:05
*slams Support button* I love everything about this.



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Alma (#7695)

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Posted on
2018-02-04 19:38:05
Thanks for your support! I wish I could take credit for any of this, but all I did was use existing ideas and place them into my original model the way that made the most sense to me.



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Malk [Side] (#107850)

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Posted on
2018-02-26 18:38:40
I would love all of these bases! Awesome idea and I can tell that you ( and the people that helped you of course ) put a lot of effort into it!



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Alma (#7695)

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2018-02-26 18:44:09
Even if Iridescent, which wasn't my idea, doesn't get accepted, I hope all of these wonderful bases do: each of these artists were fantastic to work with! However, I really do think Iridescent gradient would solve some problems, so I'm hoping it happens.

Thanks for your support!



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Alma (#7695)

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2018-03-11 12:24:25
We're getting some of these bases in-game!!! I'm so happy for these talented folks!



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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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Posted on
2018-03-11 14:47:53
Support all the way. Having it as a gradient can only simplify the steps players need to take to focus on what they want to breed and, as I've said before in other threads, it could even open the door for more "unrealistic" bases for those who want them, and be easily avoided by those who don't want them. Perhaps even introducing the new gradient could serve as a catalyst to sort some of the already existing bases in the gradient that would suit them the most, instead of being the odd one out to fill a spot?



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Alma (#7695)

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2018-03-11 14:54:44
THANK YOU, Berenos: that's exactly what I'm trying to accomplish with this modification of others' ideas (yours included).

I'll keep plugging along trying to advertise this version and get feedback, but if nothing else, I *LOVE* that many of these bases are getting added!



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diet dr kelp πŸŽƒ (#116532)

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Posted on
2018-03-11 18:40:27
Yes, I agree



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Bakugou Katsuki
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Posted on
2018-03-11 18:44:48
Intriguing, even though It isn't something I can eat. (Inside joke)



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Alma (#7695)

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Posted on
2018-03-11 18:54:52
Thanks for the support, Daddy and Barry! And although you can't eat this post, there are many really sweeeeeeeet bases to enjoy, some of which are already accepted and waiting for implementation in-game!



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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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Posted on
2018-03-12 03:37:17
@Alma

I just skimmed over the suggestion yesterday and supported figuring it'd be like what you said in the other threads, and now I realize that most of what I said was already in the post! In my defense, it was really late :'D

I just wanted to add - and I apologize if this is already in there somewhere, too, lately things hide from me in plain sight - that, to incorporate the iridiscent gradient, we'd need to have some wild iridiscent bases, so it doesn't end up being an all custom-event-breed only thing, and people can start an iridiscent project from scratch, like they can do already with countershaded and solid. Bases like Alabaster, Mountain, Cygnet for Black, Magnolia, Granola or Feldspar for Cream, Tafaha, Pecan Pie or Mulberry for Red and Cuniform, Mandazi or Twilight for Golden seem perfect candidates to be found while we explore :o



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Casper [Side] (#56629)

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Posted on
2018-03-12 07:24:02
Such a great idea!



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Alma (#7695)

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Posted on
2018-03-18 16:38:20
I agree, Berenos: how great is it that Asali just got added in the (NCL) way you describe! Congrats, Natanocte!

I'd like to see as many user-suggested bases in-game as possible. That's why this project was really important to me... I wanted to see all of these great ideas, yours included, in one place where people can see how well they fit together and how they can help all groups of people (naturalists and colorbomb breeders alike) can home in on their goals.

:fingers crossed:



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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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Posted on
2018-03-19 03:15:44
@Alma

The addition of exclusive bases to explore is a very welcome feature, and it didn't hurt that it was a base many of us wanted to get when we first heard about the applicable golden one <3

You don't know how much I want to spread this thread around so more people can share their own thoughts :'D



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Alma (#7695)

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2018-03-25 09:45:25
I would *LOVE IT* if you shared this... I always value feedback!



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