I agree with the Love Hut/Shack idea. It seems to be the most reliable way to make sure rollovers complete. Additionally, I think the lioness would have to be at 100% mood and 0% hunger when she's sent there so the stat-drop from rollovers doesn't make them run. Additionally there could be a button "leave resources" where you leave a carcass and toy to keep her mood/hunger full.

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Perhaps have a menu on every female lion where you can set a reverse stud price , that can be searched for like any other stud search? And have the cubs delivered automatically at 5 months like a trade?

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I've read most of the replies here. Whilst i do think a "love hut" is a good simple way of handling the situation, and probably the best tbh (especially if it autogenerates a nest, food, and amusement for the ladies in it.) I do think there needs to be a way to split litters and have the option to stud to the lioness's king. My suggestions would be a checkbox on the lioness's studding info like "use lioness's king" and "use Outside king" or something.

as for split litters, maybe some system that limits how many cubs you (the buyer) get to choose. It could be set by the seller, like "allow player to claim x mutated cubs" and "Allow player to claim x unmutated/unchecked cubs"

then the buyer clicks a "claim" checkbox by each cub, then confirm, and a system notif sends to both saying its complete or a red banner pops up saying "you have selected more than the seller's set limit, please reselect"

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I like the second suggestion linked in the original post, but I feel like there should be an option for when the owner of the lioness is allowed to keep 1+ cubs

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Think I got a possible way to work with this owO

I think a cool system to put into place would be adding queens as an official thing. it could work kinda like kings, but they could be like the head broodmother. There would only be one queen per pride, but those could be the lionesses that have the reverse breeding option. I imagine the cubs would grow up and when they're done nursing, a notice will pop up that basically tells you the father (person who requested the breeding) was waiting for their cub/cubs. when you click on/dismiss the notice it sends you to a transfer page that makes you select at least one of the cubs to send over.
Queens would be able to be switched either after their final heat, an option when you switch your king or if you pay a force retirement fee, kinda like the kings.
I also imagine the queen would match stats with the king, whether it be higher or lower.

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I personally like the Love Shack Idea and Lady Argent's idea too!

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I feel it would be easier to code if we just reused the system already put into place for male studding , and placed it on female lion pages. And like Echo said , have them be a queen , only one at a time. I’m also thinking queen retirement fee too.
I’d also like to have my pride ruled by one of these queens without a male , but that’s just me.
I also like the idea of it automatically taking us to a transfer page , where we can send over the cubs.
I think there should be an automated agreement system on how many unmutated/mutated cubs each person gets as well.

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I’ve been planning on doing this for my ferus! It’d be so much easier than making a thread and stuff. :p

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I am in support of a system run area for the ladies that does rollover automatically for them and 'keeps them' until they are ready to return to the owners account. I also am in support of the idea of a 'wet nurse' maybe as a secondary function of broodmothers, that can be activated when needed, for the requester's pride.

For the division of cubs my suggestion would be, if possible, a system where you can select the traits you are most interested in from the cubs (but limited, so you can't just say you want hybrids, muts, special, rare and uncommon, unless you are not picky on traits) and the system divides the cubs (odds go to the player that paid) and deliver them like a trade, that way there isn't waiting around for one person or the other to pick, so to avoid the cubs growing up during the rollovers in the 'shack'. In the case of this system I think it would be reasonable to have the system auto check all cubs (at no cost to either player) for mutations, so that division is fair and understood why. Also it would be set up so that you rank your interest, so 1 is most interested, 2 is second most, etc. If the players mutually decide 'hey I would like that cub you got, I'll trade you this one' that can happen through private trade system that's already in place.

My example would be, say I put up one of my lionesses, Ice Ice Baby, and I approved a reverse stud request, and she popped out 3 cubs, 1 has special, and the other two are common, but the system notes one is AMP. I, as the lioness owner, said I was most interested in mutes and rare, and the other player said they were interested in special. They would get the special, but I would get the AMP, and they would get the remainder.

If a situation where both picked the same traits as the same interest level, and only one cub of each was available, it would preference the player who paid for the highest interest trait, then switch to the other for the next conflicting interest level.

Similar example, and both the other player and I said we have mute as our #1 interest, they would get the mute, but even if we both selected special as being #2 interest, I would get the special, because they got the previous 'tie'.

I hope I'm making some kind of sense... even if no one agrees with the idea. Please feel free to steal parts of my idea to offer other ideas as well~

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Support! As long as, as suggested above, there's a system in place to essentially force a mini-rollover for every lioness in this system so they aren't pregnant forever due to an unexpected hiatus. They also should be unable to run until she gives birth so her cubs are auto-transferred, AND this system will also auto-nest the lioness.

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i think it would be nice to set up the females like we do with ower kings but maybe like a fee that could also be items along with SB & GB so say a player has a tigon female up for 70gb & a buffy ball that is what the owner of the tigon would get as a payment for the breeding to there female

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Well, maybe the answer is staring us all in the face and it could be as simple as giving the lionesses a breeding section like the Kings have? A breeding fee is paid by the king wanting to breed with her much like the owner of the lioness has to pay to breed with someone else's king.

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I don't see why split Cubs should be a feature. For the majority of users it would not be something they will use, and it would just be unnecessary work for a feature that is likely to be abused. Even when people do split Cubs, there is a lot of variation between how these splits work. And we don't have split Cubs in the current male studding system, so I don't see why this should be a thing for reverse studding.

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What if there was another option along with hunter and broodmother. Something like "surrogate" might be appropriate. If a player checks this option then that female can become a "surrogate" for another pride. A limit as to how many a pride can have could be placed (similar to how broodmothers work)

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I agree with blue pigeon, splitting a breeding when you dont know the cubs born or who will claim which is going to overcomplicate it. Consider a system can handle auto rollover but what if someones on hiatus during cub claiming? If you do claim automatically via pre-chosen traits, does that mean you have to go through multiple approval stages just to start the studding? ie Approval of studding the female, approval of potential outside male stud, approval of 'claimed' traits for both parties involved, thats potentially 4 approval stages
I think you should be buying the studding for the whole litter, like with a male stud, lioness owners can always set their prices higher in exchange if the potential outcome is such valuable muties

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