Posted by Let's.... talk about the July Event

Lex 🦋 (#56485)

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2021-07-08 10:05:13

So...the July Event

Please read before commenting!
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I am AWARE that the "full version" of the event is not available and it will not be until next year. I am AWARE that the admin and art teams put in a lot of work for this event. I am very thankful for them. Xylax, Deertush, 7th, you guys are amazing and I love you. This thread is in no way meant to downplay your skills or capabilities, because your art is fantastic and i and everyone else appreciate everything you do for us to keep the game fresh and beautiful. This thread is being posted because I would like to hear suggestions and input from the rest of the community, because i am aware that myself and most of my friends very much dislike what has happened to the July event in terms of the rehaul.



The Mechanics
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I'm not even sure where to begin with this.

Event Currency is Participation Currency.

Asking the community to pay a tax from their currency in order to participate is, quite frankly, a little bit outrageous. It would be like having to pay stink bugs in order to leave poop in other people's dens. It would be like having to use Khepri beetles in order to fight with your deity, How is anybody supposed to save for items for the event shop with this model?

Battling Sucks.

There's not much I can say other than this. Battling NPCs is a mechanic that not many people on Lioden like to do, but now the only way to get major event currency is to fight for it on a RNG based system that you have to...pay in order to access. With enemies that don't seem to be scaled correctly at all. It isn't even a "you lose so you lost energy try again later" situation. You're physically paying event currency to have your ass beaten by space dragons. And don't even get me started on the bosses, please. How am I supposed to beat a boss when random NPCs are killing me in three hits?

What the fuck is going on?

There's just so much I want to say but I don't know how to put it into words.
It feels like there's been little to no communication from the staff team and it frustrates me because of how much I love this game and how much I loved this event.
This isn't Wolvden, but it sure feels like Wolvden is starting to bleed in over here. July really right now feels like a glorified Lunar event, and I don't like that that's been done.
When the delay news was posted, that was just fine! Like I said, I love this art team, But... this isn't what was expected. I was expecting a delay for the entire event to be posted. This wasn't communicated at all and now people are confused on all fronts, from currency to what's going on to everything else.
I really, genuinely think most people were expecting different storylines from different perspectives from the characters we've been fawning over for years, with Tefnut up first. This isn't what anybody wanted.


On the Topic of Characters
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I don't even understand why anyone thought tossing all of the July NPCs out would be a good idea or where it came from. Nobody in the community asked for this. There was so much that could have been done, that I think most people expected. When Tefnut's backstory was teased, everyone was so excited! I was super excited to learn about the celestial world of the lions we loved. We watched Menhit grow up! She's my favorite NPC in the entirety of Lioden and now she's just... gone? So i can fight some random space dragons? I'm just...confused. Like why should i...care? Where is Tefnut's backstory? Apollyon's? Apedemak's? Obviously there was more to learn about him, since one of the explore encounters talked about how he was some crazy guy talking to the sky which implies our character has no fucking idea who Apedemak is from the jump.


In closing
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Comments I would like to point out
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Agryo

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Jester

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Edited on 08/07/21 @ 12:10:44 by Lex (#56485)

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Posted on
2022-07-01 10:54:20
I'm a little bit confused about Meteorite Shards. I've seen a lot of people complaining about using up event currency to explore, but the thing is, as far as I can tell Meteorite Shards aren't really event currency. As in, they can't be used to purchase anything but steps, so they're more like earnable energy. Am I wrong about this? I feel like I'm missing something.



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the Gary <3 (#233091)

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Posted on
2022-07-01 10:58:21
you use them to get the real event currency - axion cores. Without the shards, there is no way to get cores except for the civil war storyline, which really only gives you one core per quest



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Freaky Missy (#142500)


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2022-07-01 10:59:52
Right, so then why are people upset about having to use Meteorite Shards to explore to get Axion Cores? Is it the general consensus that people would rather use their energy to get cores?



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the Gary <3 (#233091)

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2022-07-01 11:01:59
Basically, because you're not garunteed to get axion cores


Its hard to get shards, already. You struggle, you use all your energy, you can take two steps in celestial explore. The way you get axion cores is by fighting the bosses. So you go and you try to fight one, and it absolutely destroys you. You do it again, same result.

You have now wasted hours of your time, all your energy and you have gotten nothing at all



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Mad Hyena (#29080)

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2022-07-01 11:04:11
They're indeed an earnable energy. But the key word here is "earnable". You need to explore a lot to get enough for 5-shard steps in Celestial Explore, and then, that work all ends up nothing when you get kicked by an invincible space dragon. Shards dont regenerate on their own like energy, you cant just relax doing real life stuff while waiting to get some more; you need to explore and find more of them. And then the battling difficulty wastes all that work, because enemies keep kicking your tail BUT your shards are gone nontheless, regardless if you loose the battle.



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2022-07-01 11:04:13
Okay, I see. So people aren't really upset about the Meteorite Shard method, but rather about the difficulty of getting shards and then getting axion cores from that. But isn't the second storyline actually helping with that because of the large shard rewards for quests? Sorry to be so dumb, I just haven't been on here since this new event was introduced, so this is my first time.

Ack, wrong account! This is my side. I keep doing that, sorry.



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Edited on 01/07/22 @ 11:04:30 by Sentient Being (#142426)

Lunar Lords (#86479)

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2022-07-01 11:04:37
You do not only get Axion cores from bosses. You get *more* from bosses. Even wandering the celestial realm gives lots of Axion cores.



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The Crow (#112292)

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2022-07-01 11:07:46
I got 2 axion cores from completing a quest with Menhit, so the rewards vary based on which NPC you take quests from. The wiki says that Menhit gives you 2-3 cores, 12-50 shards, and 1 abandoned nest. Apollyon gives you 1-2 cores, 25-50 shards, and 3 brown eagle feathers. Apedemak gives 1 core, 50-100 shards, and 1 lion skull.



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Edited on 01/07/22 @ 11:08:35 by Crow (#112292)

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the Gary <3 (#233091)

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Posted on
2022-07-01 11:08:12
I've yet to get an axion core from wandering, i did not know that!

90% of my cores are from last year, when i grinded everyday, used tons of energy, and then never bought anything lol



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Mad Hyena (#29080)

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2022-07-01 11:08:17
"Lots" is a great overstatement how much wandering celestial explore gives. Over half of all encounters are enemies, which means, more often than every other 5-shards is a waste of time. 5 shards takes at least an hour of exploring, for me. That's a lot of time. That is why Im upset. I DONT like it when my work and time get rewarded with "oh, another enemy you cant defeat, skipping it, wasting 5 shards, and then another one, 5 more wasted, and one more, 5 more down the drain, OH FINALLY A NONBATTLE ENCOUNTER but it gave no axion cores, minus 5 shards for nothing"



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2022-07-01 11:11:20
I agree with Hyena (i hope you don't mind the nickname), I explored a ton last year and ended up with 60 shards

I used those 60 chards this year, and how many cores did i get? 4. i got 4 cores. i now have no shards left. from the entire month of july last year.



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2022-07-01 11:19:32
I'm fairly new and am doing this event for the first time. I joined last November/December.

I have loved all the events up to this one. This one is as confusing as anything and I'm lost. Why did I chose a challenge to reduce my karma? I had no idea. My explore just isn't giving me the chance to be nasty and I am NOT killing my cubs. I killed one to see if this gave me any points (it gave -5) and that was enough. According to the game I get -5 karma per kill!!!!! So 9 more to kill.... No way. The tree is barren enough as it is.

And I've just used all my meteorite shards in the celestial explore getting my butt kicked. I didn't even notice they were depleting! I ain't going there again. And if I lose out on bases/markings/decor then so be it.

And when does the invitation arrive for the Journey to Vredefort Crater? And where is it? And do I bother? Am I going to fail at that too? Me no likey!!!!!!



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2022-07-01 11:23:23
Oh, the vredfort crater is in the crossroads, under the "Adventuring" section ^^



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9xSealBO (#254511)

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2022-07-01 11:24:20
Oh thank you! I've been all over wiki and everything.



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Posted on
2022-07-01 11:25:31
No problem, it confused me too!



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