Posted by Let's.... talk about the July Event

Lex 🦋 (#56485)

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2021-07-08 10:05:13

So...the July Event

Please read before commenting!
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I am AWARE that the "full version" of the event is not available and it will not be until next year. I am AWARE that the admin and art teams put in a lot of work for this event. I am very thankful for them. Xylax, Deertush, 7th, you guys are amazing and I love you. This thread is in no way meant to downplay your skills or capabilities, because your art is fantastic and i and everyone else appreciate everything you do for us to keep the game fresh and beautiful. This thread is being posted because I would like to hear suggestions and input from the rest of the community, because i am aware that myself and most of my friends very much dislike what has happened to the July event in terms of the rehaul.



The Mechanics
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I'm not even sure where to begin with this.

Event Currency is Participation Currency.

Asking the community to pay a tax from their currency in order to participate is, quite frankly, a little bit outrageous. It would be like having to pay stink bugs in order to leave poop in other people's dens. It would be like having to use Khepri beetles in order to fight with your deity, How is anybody supposed to save for items for the event shop with this model?

Battling Sucks.

There's not much I can say other than this. Battling NPCs is a mechanic that not many people on Lioden like to do, but now the only way to get major event currency is to fight for it on a RNG based system that you have to...pay in order to access. With enemies that don't seem to be scaled correctly at all. It isn't even a "you lose so you lost energy try again later" situation. You're physically paying event currency to have your ass beaten by space dragons. And don't even get me started on the bosses, please. How am I supposed to beat a boss when random NPCs are killing me in three hits?

What the fuck is going on?

There's just so much I want to say but I don't know how to put it into words.
It feels like there's been little to no communication from the staff team and it frustrates me because of how much I love this game and how much I loved this event.
This isn't Wolvden, but it sure feels like Wolvden is starting to bleed in over here. July really right now feels like a glorified Lunar event, and I don't like that that's been done.
When the delay news was posted, that was just fine! Like I said, I love this art team, But... this isn't what was expected. I was expecting a delay for the entire event to be posted. This wasn't communicated at all and now people are confused on all fronts, from currency to what's going on to everything else.
I really, genuinely think most people were expecting different storylines from different perspectives from the characters we've been fawning over for years, with Tefnut up first. This isn't what anybody wanted.


On the Topic of Characters
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I don't even understand why anyone thought tossing all of the July NPCs out would be a good idea or where it came from. Nobody in the community asked for this. There was so much that could have been done, that I think most people expected. When Tefnut's backstory was teased, everyone was so excited! I was super excited to learn about the celestial world of the lions we loved. We watched Menhit grow up! She's my favorite NPC in the entirety of Lioden and now she's just... gone? So i can fight some random space dragons? I'm just...confused. Like why should i...care? Where is Tefnut's backstory? Apollyon's? Apedemak's? Obviously there was more to learn about him, since one of the explore encounters talked about how he was some crazy guy talking to the sky which implies our character has no fucking idea who Apedemak is from the jump.


In closing
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Comments I would like to point out
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Edited on 08/07/21 @ 12:10:44 by Lex (#56485)

The Crow (#112292)

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Posted on
2022-07-01 12:15:07
The old July event had the Cloud Forest which guaranteed you 3-6 fireflies in exchange for paying an eagle 2 amusement item uses, with a half-hour cooldown in between the trade. So you had a reliable way to earn event currency just for checking in throughout the day. Maybe the team could implement something similar so players have less of a need to engage in difficult dragon battles? Or they could just bring the Cloud Forest back and make the fireflies convertible to axion cores. I think that would help make the event a lot less frustrating for many players.



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Edited on 01/07/22 @ 12:18:51 by Crow (#112292)

Mad Hyena (#29080)

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2022-07-01 12:17:59
Crow, I agree. It'd help much if dragon encounters just had an Ignore button next to Fight, so people who dont want to fight, just got their axion core, but no experience/impression gain from battle. Or at least a chance of axion core.

Even a cloud forest but with dragons would work so much better than this unbalanced battling! Just pay 5 shards every X amount of time, see a pretty new dragon, get an axion core. Like old cloud forest used to be.



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Edited on 01/07/22 @ 12:24:13 by Mad Hyena (#29080)

Seolhe (#136122)

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2022-07-01 13:13:51
Yes, I think bringing back something akin to the cloud forest would be a big improvement.

Really though, I just wish they'd change the celestial explore cost to 1 shard instead of 5. It's just so unreasonable. Either that or *drastically* improve the odds of finding shards in regular explore.

Also, is it just me or is the regular explore just super boring without any event encounters? Like, at least now there's the few plot related encounters, but idk, it's just so dull to grind for shards with nothing event related to do along the way



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fakeroxylalonde (#229548)


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2022-07-01 13:55:52
Yeah, the pvp in this event fucking sucks

Thankfully I managed to score a bunch of lucky feet last year during the april event to just win a lot of the fights, but since I was in hiatus, I don't think it'll cut it this time

I'm HOPING. that the team have something up their sleeves to help balance out the fights, because for some reason they can't change such a simple problem lol

Maybe with the civil war, you get a buff from whatever from which path you take, kinda like the june event

But I'm not keeping my hopes up. One fucking base costs 100 cores, and with the rate of these bosses, I don't think I'll be able to even get one this year lol

Good luck to everyone



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Seolhe (#136122)

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2022-07-01 16:54:15
Glad to see they changed the price from 5 to 2 shards per step in the celestial explore. There are still plenty of issues, but that's a big improvement.



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2022-07-01 17:21:57
subscribing to this because it's interesting!

sorry, I'm new to this event and I was a bit shocked and confused by the fact that Apedemak is incestuous! I'm completely fine with spoilers and could use a bit of explanation to why he is described in these terms, not doubting anyone, I just can't find his story anywhere, tysm!



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Seolhe (#136122)

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2022-07-01 17:33:45
In the original storyline, part of Apedemak's plan was to mate with his own daughter, Menhit, to achieve his ultimate goal.



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Allycat (#142402)


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Posted on
2022-07-01 17:36:10
Gross



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The Crow (#112292)

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Posted on
2022-07-01 17:41:38
@Allycat: A plot point of the original version had Apedemak wanting to inbreed with Menhit in order to produce a Divine cub; this was changed in order for the story to be less dark and upsetting for the readers. Apedemak now wants to arrange a marriage between Menhit and an unrelated male lion.

Here's what the new version says:
"When the view is clear enough, your ears pick up on their voices. Apedemak is insistent - he demands that Menhit marry another male lion of his choice, to keep the bloodline pure and spawn a Divine cub. She seems very angry about this, and screams that she has her own free will."



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that cat [g3 demi
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Posted on
2022-07-01 19:33:21
how is this event somehow even MORE unbalanced after the latest dev update



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Oolong (#307384)

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Posted on
2022-07-01 21:38:35
I'm really lost on the whole story line and how they changed the characters? Can someone do a deep dive and explain it to me? (I've been playing for less than a week now so I'm just really confused.)

Also my biggest complaint about the event is struggling to get Axion Cores, like I can barely beat the monsters/dragons and when I do finally win, I only get 1 core.



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Sarah (ALSO ACTIVE
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2022-07-01 23:13:50
I don't like the update to 5 to 2 shards, shards are already pretty common in the explore (+10 shards is pretty common) so having at only 2 makes it where u can explore infinitely, which would be fine if you didn't even have to fight to get cores, there needs to be some kind of balance added...



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Sprigatito G1 Deca (#169873)

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2022-07-01 23:16:06
I don't mind the MS change; I think it's pretty helpful tbh. I wouldn't mind having it be a bit easier to get AC tho, because battles are still a challenge. Still, the poll put up today I'm sure will help



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Sarah (ALSO ACTIVE
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2022-07-02 08:23:17
Sprigagito the shard debuff literally makes it so u don't even need to fight to get axion cores regularly lol



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Roukera (#29488)

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2022-07-02 08:36:37
I personally like the debuff. I can actually explore the event area now without panicking that I won't be able to find enough ms in regular explore. Also you don't have to fight to get cores. Just explore! They're not all that common, but you'll still get them at a decent rate.



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