Posted by [FEB] In-game Sexual Art Toggle

Firenkyo 🌼 (#128989)

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Posted on
2023-01-09 20:54:43
Hey!
So, February has a lot of sexual art. For many users, it is awkward, uncomfortable, and/or disturbing to see. I am proposing an in-game toggle that just removes the art from these encounters but keeps the text. So, for instance, the mating achromatic and melanistic lion decor would just show the explore biome background and no character art, but would still show the usual text and options.

I am aware that there is a tutorial on the wiki (https://www.lioden.wiki/blocking-images) to block the sexual images. However, many other users probably are not, and it is not stated on any event posts or on the event page. This method also requires an extension to be downloaded, and will not work on mobile. I know several lioden players, myself included, that play on mobile and would really like to stop seeing all that. Yes, this game is 16+, and no genitalia is shown, but users can still feel uncomfortable with it.

There are already in-game toggles for a variety of things, like pregnant images, custom decor on lions, and of course the marking censor. There is also the opportunity to opt out of the event entirely, but seeing as not all of the encounters are sexual and the event is a major money maker for players I don't think it's a valid option for people just interested in losing the sexual art.

To restate - a toggle, perhaps on the event page or on your user profile, that gives the option to remove sexual images from explore encounters. If not that, a link to the wiki page about blocking images would be nice on the news post or event page.

I'm not sure how difficult this idea would be to implement, but I think it might be a good thing to think on for future Feb events!

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From Lunarmoon - the mating encounter is hidden behind a bush
From Taevali - the mating encounter is replaced by a black screen or a nsfw warning to prevent the player from skipping over the encounter by accident
From Fern [side] - this toggle or another one would also block out extreme gore like that seen in the March event

To restate, this would be a TOGGLE, so users that prefer the explore to be the same would simply not turn the toggle on. It would not affect their gameplay in any way.



This suggestion has 723 supports and 98 NO supports.



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Edited on 21/02/23 @ 18:58:03 by Firenkyo 🌼 (#128989)

Fraekincense (#57572)


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2023-03-01 02:07:20
Maybe next year lads.
I dunno why they've ignored this, surely it would use the same coding as the marking filter.



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Saber (#106419)


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Posted on
2023-03-01 07:24:46
Even if coding takes work, the least they could've done is mentioned it



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𐂂 Neon Genesis
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2023-09-12 22:29:01
Very belated full support! I'm a gore fanatic and I love the humor and whimsy of the mating flavor text, but boy is February an awkward time to play Lioden in public.

Like, yes, it's just nature. There's no bits, and the encounters are framed to be funny. Not to mention, anybody old enough to play should understand that it's just nature, and anybody seeing it as anything but should probably go chat with a therapist because uh...you shouldn't have sexual awakenings to feral animals mating. And you can't argue that it's because they're mating because I doubt that most farmers and folks in the horse/dog breeding industries are thinking of it as anything but nature.

But just making it's natural (and shown more graphically in, yknow, all-age nature docs) doesn't mean I need my professor or a young child looking over my shoulder and going 'yo what the fuck'. Tch, we deserve a +1mil Awkward Thoughts for that 🀣



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Edited on 21/09/23 @ 07:08:37 by Jenova :|: 3.2kstMRCinnaPrimal (#164933)

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Posted on
2023-09-21 05:05:09
full support, i have two younger brothers who like to look at my pc, dont want them seeing that-



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Az [G1 Incense
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2023-09-21 07:03:33
full support. idk why anyone hasnt brought it up yet is there's a difference between it just being nature, and full on furry p*rn. they're feral, personified animals. the point isn't "nature", its to literally just show u softcore animal p*rn. gives me zoophile vibes to me tbh. i cant imagine people looking at things like this and being okay with it. it is not just nature. the animals are personified, we know they can feel love. there is nothing to suggest they arent doing it for some sort of enjoyment.

and personally, this stuff should be 18+ considered IMO. if you're American, ur usually 16 when ur a sophomore in highschool. if you've graduated already or are a senior, you realize how young and immature they actually are. would u walk up to a sophomore and just show them animals mating? doesn't matter how friendly you are with them, as an adult that's creepy as hell. my bf has a 16-17 year old brother and I would NEVER even consider showing him sexual content, even implied images.

I've seen a lot of messed up things in my time on the internet. but animal p*rn crosses a line for me.



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𐂂 Neon Genesis
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2023-09-21 07:43:41
My laptop is being funky with editing past responses, but I do want to add this on as well.

Even if a toggle never gets added, remember, it is YOUR responsibility to cater your own online experiences, it is not the online's responsibility to cater to you. As such, its good practice to find your own ways to avoid situations you dislike rather than expecting others to handle the situation for you. Toggle or not, any opensource software should permit image blockers, so the only things caught in the snare are Apple devices. And to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody has made some good Apple content blockers by now as well.

I'm comfortable with the Feb encounters most of the time, so I leave them be, because they're way less graphic than most all-age nature docs AND shown through rose-colored glasses. I'm not comfortable with other topics, so I block them using outside blockers or built in blockers depending on the topic. And that's a practice we should really all be doing. Anyways, I think that and my previous response (and my paragraphs on all the similar topics) sums up all my thoughts on the topic quite well. So uh...Rock On, I guess.



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🎩Fancy fork 🍴 (#427147)

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Posted on
2023-09-21 07:47:46
I think i've heard from a few other replies that a lot of image blockers dont work on phone/ipad anything other than pc



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𐂂 Neon Genesis
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2023-09-21 07:50:59
Fancy fork snakes. -
I've tested with the Android and Windows software, and all image blockers appear to be working on anything running those softwares. Like I said, Apple is its own unique thing, because it isn't opensource and is...very funky. Unfortunately, I cannot test Linux due to my only Linux device being about as dead as I am inside (lol), but that almost definitely works well with image blockers knowing its framework. It is likely that anybody working on a non-apple device has simply managed to mess up something with activating a content-blocker, or hasn't taken the time to look into what may be a relatively long process to install one. Unfortunately, ad-blockers aren't typically 'one click and move on', but they are easy and there are loads of tutorials out there.



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Edited on 21/09/23 @ 07:56:44 by Jenova :|: 3.2kstMRCinnaPrimal (#164933)

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Posted on
2023-09-21 07:54:58
No support for reasons I voiced on other topics, and - I am certain that ALL devices have at least 1 working way of blocking images. Maybe 4-5 years ago there werent, but now there are apps to be downloaded for all kinds of mobiles that allow image blocking. Of course, it might not be like "tap 1 time and all unwanted images are gone", sometimes you will need to actually take afew minutes to install it and make it work - but there are tutorials for ALL devices, any and all, about how to block images. It just comes down to wanting to devote a moment of your time learning. Which most people nowadays dont want to spare, being used to mobile-device policy of "it works in 1 click or it doesnt work", and prefer to rather demand the website admins to do that work for them.



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Edited on 21/09/23 @ 07:58:07 by Mad Hyena (#29080)

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Posted on
2023-09-21 08:11:13
I'm basically repsosting what i put on a smilar topic.

I don't think you should be made to look at something your uncomfortable with but at the same time they're lions? I don't link it to them being sexual, just animals doing animal things. That's my pov of it anyway. Some are personified ig? but that's like giving your dog emotions and a personality and thinking it's weird that it goes around naked, it's an animal, it just does that.

I think lioden might not do anything though because it sounds like it might be difficult to encounter thhe encounter and get the feb goodies while also not showing the image for it, and ig if they start having toggling options for a few things that make folk uncomfortable, they might always get bombarded with what each lioden player finds uncomfortable and give them loads of work to do.

you get animal documentaries that show the same event stuff and it's rated at a PG, even when they have violence and stuff.

I think if they're able to implement it easily they should but if it being in the game makes you VERY uncomfortable then maybe lioden isn't the game for you? If something makes you uncomfortable you shouldn't need to put yourself through it, but, there's plenty of websites that exists like that. I don't go on twitter because it makes me uncomfortable.



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Firenkyo 🌼 (#128989)

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2023-09-21 08:43:37
Since there is a toggle for pregnant lions already in game, I feel like this wouldn't be out of the ordinary. Your argument for "it isn't that weird" could also be applied to pregnant lions. They're not sexual, they're just animals. And they still have a filter.

Gore and sexual content are very common things that people do not want to see, they're not simply a person's weird triggers.

If this isn't implemented, I'd at least like to see a disclaimer on blocking images in the news event thread.



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Mad Hyena (#29080)

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2023-09-21 08:46:21
Err... the pregnant lioness toggle was not because it was sexual or making anyone uncomfortable. They made the toggle because it hid the decors and thus, disrupted the looks one might have for their lioness. It had nothing to do with sexual images nor blocking offensive images.



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𐂂 Neon Genesis
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Posted on
2023-09-21 08:48:07
Agreeing with Mad Hyena here...hiding the prego pose was 100% an aesthetic thing, not a comfort thing. You may use it for comfort reasons, but that wasn't the initial purpose.



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Posted on
2023-09-21 08:48:12
FULL SUPPORT. like when I play it in public people just laugh at me and everything. Not that I'm ashamed or anything, just it's kinda awkward for other people to look at your screen in Feb and they don't play Lioden!



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Firenkyo 🌼 (#128989)

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2023-09-21 08:48:37
Ok, I was not online when the toggle was added so I did not know.

I just feel like it's...not a big deal if it gets added. You don't have to use it and it shouldn't cause complications in game - just like I don't use the marking filter (which, I understand, was made to help people with medical issues and is not the same as a sexual/gore filter).



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