This Gen 1 Pon: I currently have plans to RMA to try for a 5th rosette(This will take place sometime in the future she is frozen right now, she is stubborn).

Her 2nd rosette was obtained 5-22-20, 3rd on 6-6-20, & 4th on 11-30-20. I may sell more limited heats that cost GB in the future though(For more info pm me).


For the Gen 1 Gon: I currently have plans to RMA to try for her 3rd rosette(This will take place sometime in the future she is lower priority over my Leopon).

Her 1st rosette was obtained 5-7-21.
Her 2nd rosette was obtained 10-1-21.

°The winner of the givaway will be chosen via random.org. I will generate a page number, and then generate a post. For example, pages 1-2400; if the number is 1250, then the numbers 1-15 will be put into the generator. If 8 is chosen, then the 8th post on the 1250th page will be the winner of this givaway.

°The winner will get a Clean Gen 1 Leopon/Tigon heat or a G2 Hybrid You get the option to breed her to my side king which is a Gen 1 Clean Sexta (6x) Rosette Cherry blossom Based Patches. This will give better chance a multi rosetted offspring.

°The winner will be informed a day before her heat will take place. After the winner is drawn the person who wins her will be informed of this and the specifics will be discussed.

°To participate in this giveaway, you just have to comment and talk to other players. You must have at least one post in between your own posts. If you have any questions, please PM me.

°All replies by me do not count. Any reply made by me will not count tword the givaway. If I reply and that page is selected of 1-15 comments say I replied once on that I would role again same page if my comment was picked.

°I have the right to refuse to giveaway the heat/hybrid to a user within reason. This will be the case if a winner is drawn but has not been online the day of the heat, or have been shown to have broken any of the rules listed(normally after being warned at least once). Users Blocked by me can not enter this raffle(my block list is only about 5 people so this likely won't be a issue).

°I have the right to redraw the winner if need be for any reason. If you are drawn as the winner you must be online within 3-5 days of being chosen(this is because I will only roll her once maybe twice in Febuary to keep her young). You will obtain 1 pm once you win and 1 pm prior to a new winner being chosen.

°This givaway is for a full rights litter to a clean gen 1 leopons/tigons heat/A G2 Hybrid. No barks are required and I will provide the following: 20 Yohimbe Barks, 1 Buffalo Scrotum, 1 Lion Meat, 2 Gnawrocks(for passing rosettes your choice), IBF, Age stones for any hybrids born(depending on how this goes this may include non-hybrids), Nesting, and Stud fee of 3 or lower(You will have the chance to breed to my 6x rosette king if wanted no cost)- any other items or fees are your responsibility.

°This will not be done through the Reverse Breeding system unless asked for directly. This is because I think most users have a stud other than their own in their mind, plus it is much easier to use items etc. without the system. If you're worried, I have done sevral giveaways/raffles in the past like this, but will do my best to make you feel as confortable as possible when going through the breeding. I can provide screenshots of items that are use and anything else you may think of at that time.

°The Leopon/Tigon will NOT be leaving my den for any reason. They will only be transferred between my main #57411, and my side #57994 if need be but this is unlikely.

°The Leopon & Tigon are NOT for sale. Please do not ask. I may sell limited Barked heats from them in the month of February but they must be paid for.

°I will NOT be changing their bases.This is because it is a breed only base that comes with any gen 1 hybrid. So please do not ask if I can change their base to Ivory etc. to try and breed a soul based hybrid as a example, it will not be considered.

Posts must be at least 1 sentence long and contain at least 4-5 words. If a 1 word reply is drawn for a page prize it will not be chosen and redrawn this is to make it more common posting more than 1 word replys or just a emoji to make sure users are not spaming for pages. I will sometime accept 3 word replies based on context as I understand not everything can be a full sentence. Thank you!

Please don't advertise directly. Please be sure to check the LD rules on this as we had issues on the last thread. While I don't mind you posting a link to a lion that eventually you will sell or stating that something will be sold, raffled, etc. Only posting for advertisement is against the rules. You ard free to state lions you have bred as well as if you got a new stud etc. though.

Please keep this fairly PG. While most of use are most likely adults this is a 16+ site. Please keep anything that might be to graphic or explicitly out of this chat. I don't mind the use of curses etc. But the posting of graphic art/topics etc. without warning/use of spoiler etc. Is not ok.

°These rules may change for any reason if need be. You all will be updated if anything is changed. Changes will have *** next to them.

First question: How did I get my Gen 1's?

For my Pon: I used only CRBs(Cotten Root Barks) These are obtained in the oasis for 1GB per. I used a bit over 600 CRBs(without any other items used) and she was obtained as a male leopon with 50 stats in a batch of 60 CRBed lionesses.

I normally only breed NCLs with CRBs to a heritagless stud that is not piebald or patches(at the time my boy was heritagless primal). You can see the mutation order in the wiki to know why I chose a primal stud.

For my Gon: I bought her for 1450 worth at the time. I paid in a mix of Pure and Gnawrocks(Read her bio for specifics). She was a newborn at 0 months old and 39 stats when bought. I personally did not breed her but I hear the user was mass using lion meats and got lucky with those if that helps.

Possible Question: Why not use a Pie or Patches stud?

When you use a Item such as Lion Meat/Scrotum(Lion Scrotums can not be used on Hybrids), GMO Cow, or CRB. Piebald and Patches mutation rolls before the items above meaning a pie or patches lion could mutate a cub insted of the item you plan to use. So using a primal or non mutated stud is best for CRBs & Breeding items. View wiki for specifics.

Pies/Patches does not Effect Hybrid Chance as Hybrids Roll before all mutations and items. So you can use a Pie or Patches stud when breeding a hybrid lionness. Just if you want to use something like a GMO to effect the rest of the litter be aware of this fact.

Question 2: Are CRBs effective?

Yes they are but they only have a roughly 12-18% chance of working which is much lower than other breeding items but are the cheapest and most effective if you are fine with waiting the 3 day cooldown plus the 3 day nesting period. Doing several CRBs a day will allow you to get a few CRBs each day to keep you busy and modivated.

CRBs also allow you to get more total breedings done the main issue is the space to be able to do enough CRBs.

You can also combine a CRB with another breeding items.

You can use a CRB with other breeding items. The best combination is:

°Use a CRB First on a Lioness(Lower fertility is optional but helpful, always CRB first before you use any other items).
°Now Use a GMO Cow on a Lioness(after the CRB) *This can be replaced with lion meat but less effective*
°Use a Red Cock in the breeding(Not needed but making the litter all male, this makes all female mane mutations not roll but this also means no DU and the chance if common mutations like bobtail, or OG claws/teeth will still roll, but it can up the random (gen 1) hybrid and lethal chance as there are less mutations to go through).
°Use a Buffalo Scrotum(Don't ever use a GMO cow without at least a Grain of Paradise it is a waste of a 30-45GB+ item as more cubs = better chance of more mutations).

If you have more questions feel free to ask ^^