YES PLEASE. i'm okay with the blue version, but Ra is the egyptian god of the sun, and i think he should've been tied to a more yellow-ish colored base, like option 2. Nile would be a great name though!

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Definite support. Blue doesn't make sense for a sun god.

Sobek was a crocodile god, so perhaps that as a possibility? The Nile crocodile was highly revered and of course lives in the Nile river.

Thoth could work as well since he was a moon god and this base looks like an early night or twilight theme.

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Those are both great suggestions Mots, thank you! I added them to the original post!

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I'm more neutral leaning on this -- it could confuse some people who design lions in the wardrobe (like me). On the other hand, it seems like it doesn't fit Ra.

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it could confuse some people who design lions in the wardrobe (like me)
Could you elaborate on this explanation? If the base name were changed it would be reflected in the wardrobe as well. The combo base is currently unobtainable as the 3 new June bases are not available yet.

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" Could you elaborate on this explanation? If the base name were changed it would be reflected in the wardrobe as well. " - ShakiraFuego(G2
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Say if I look through the bases so when I find it the base changed to said color. Now when the base name changed, I already make a connection between the bases original name and the base itself, and would usually find myself lost when I'm looking for the base itself.

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You absolutely are allowed to feel that way, but I don't think it's that big of a deal. Ideally this would be a change that occurs sooner rather than later; if it happened soon enough especially, I don't know that tons of players would get accustomed to the name "Ra" in the wardrobe and not be able to accept a base name change. Like I said it has absolutely happened before with the Golden group and players did fine with that.

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Bolding this here to be sure no one misunderstands. I am in support of this! (sometimes I'm just salty for the sake of being salty because I hate change afpeojfeoj)

Okay, so at first I was against this suggestion simply because I need more of a reason other then 'the color doesn't fit the name'. I think I was trying to be salty and be like 'well since they want to be in favor of changing the name, I'm going to go out of my way to prove the name should stand.' But then, upon a quick glance, no. No. I am 100% in favor of this but not because of the color of the base.

The other two bases; Ogdoad and Ennead mean "set of eight" and "set of nine" upon a quick google search. But Ennead also refers to a group of Egyptian gods, as does Ogdoad.

Ra, upon googling for 5 seconds and I have a habit of looking over the blatantly obvious half of the time, does not appear to mean anything other then the Egyptian god? Unless someone has more time to look into this then I do.

But, I think the name needs to be changed to something that more closely aligns with 'Ogdoad' and 'Ennead'. I'm not a huge Egyptian mythology buff, as much as I would like to be! So is there a 3rd name for a third group of egyptian deities?

TO BE ON THE SIDE OF THE STAFF AS WELL: I am sure they had their reasons for naming it Ra! Even at the beginning when the vote was first being held. What that reasoning was, I am unsure but I would like to know what they were thinking! (Not in a Karen "what were they thinking?!?!?!1" way but honestly, I am curious as to how names are picked for bigger event bases such as these. c: )

Quick edit:

Did another 5 seconds of googling to see who the 'first' god was, or like a creation god for the ancient Egyptians and found Heka. Not super in line with the rest of the set theme but...eh. It's something I guess! Instead of me just being like "I don't like the name" lmfao

"Heka - One of the oldest and most important gods in ancient Egypt. He was the patron god of magic and medicine but was also the primordial source of power in the universe. He existed before the gods and was present in the act of creation although, in later myths, he is seen as the son of Menhet and Khnum and part of the triad of Latopolis. He is depicted as a man carrying a staff and knife, and physicians were known as Priests of Heka. Magic was an integral part of medical practice in ancient Egypt, and so Heka became an important deity for doctors. He was said to have killed two serpents and entwined them on a staff as a symbol of his power; this image (borrowed from the Sumerians, actually) was passed on to the Greeks who associated it with their god Hermes and called it the caduceus. In the modern day, the caduceus is frequently confused with the Rod of Asclepius in iconography related to the medical profession." - Copy/pasted from this website just so I'm siting my sources~

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Thank you so much for your input and for a different point of view regarding the grouping of Ogdoad and Ennead - some things to think about and I've added all of your suggestions to the post!

I don't know if the nomenclature was done for a specific reason for this base, or just "hey it's an Egyptian God" but I would love to hear it regardless! I just get bummed out when I see this beautiful base and, at least to me, nothing that screams Ra. I would say he deserves better, but really, he deserves different.

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Oh thank god ;3; I was afraid I was going to be taken the wrong way! So I'm happy I was able to bring up another viewpoint for everyone~

I am sorry you had to read a wall of text and my quick edits lmfao And thank you! I'm not entirely sure how willing the staff is to rename a base. But I hope they come here and read all this anyway, and give us some of their thoughts on why they wanted to go with Ra! <3 I know they're stupid busy with the whole rest of the site, and a base name change doesn't really rank up there in priorities. But I do genuinely hope they come and see this, and give us their own input, and hear us out!

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Ehhh I’m kind of neutral on this.

While I agree blue is not the first color I’d think of when I think of Ra, it is not entirely unfounded. The Turquoise Sycamore Trees grow at the point where the Sun God (Ra) rises each morning, he’s been described as having Lapis Lazuli hair. Calling Ra just a sun god is also really diminutive, Ra is often referred to as the God of Everything. He is one of, if not the, most important deities in Egyptian mythology. His name was likely chosen as the final base of the current June set bc they’re moving on to other Gods after this, and judging by the poll, were open to ending the June bases with Ra all together.

Ra is also heavily associated with the Underworld, the Heavens, the Sky, and more. He really is connected to absolutely everything, and while I don’t like the color chosen, it does ultimately fit him and his mythology.

I don’t think a rename is required, but I also don’t think Blue was the most obvious choice because most people don’t know of Ra past the Sun God and don’t know his other connections in mythology.

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While I don't necessarily disagree with most of the points you've made, I think it is an overly complex reasoning for the nomenclature. To that, why not name just any base Ra and it be okay? My request isn't made to make Ra seem diminutive (like, at ALL, seriously), but a simplification of his recognition as the Sun God. We know he is most commonly depicted with a solar disc on his head. Per his Wikipedia page "By the Fifth Dynasty, in the 25th and 24th centuries BC, he had become one of the most important gods in ancient Egyptian religion, identified primarily with the noon-day sun." (The base is way, way darker than a noon-day sky.) "The sun is the giver of life, controlling the ripening of crops that were worked by man. Because of the life-giving qualities of the sun, the Egyptians worshipped the sun as a god. The creator of the universe and the giver of life, the sun or Ra represented life, warmth and growth." The base doesn't scream any of this to me. It's also not the color of Lapis Lazuli, which Lazuli would actually make a great base separately. God of the Underworld? Osiris. God of the Heavens? Nut. God of the Sky? Okay but, Horus is right there. We are literally talking about the Sun God. I mean, even Hehu, of the Ogdoad, is a better name for the base in a trio referring to different groups, or pantheons, of Ancient Egypt.

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I'm glad someone else suggested Nut. She's one of my fave Egyptian deities and considering that she's often depicted as a woman covered in stars, I think she fits the look of the new base very well.
I think Neith could also be a fitting name, since she's associated with water and the cosmos. The base has a very "primordial waters" feel to me. And in some traditions she's believed to be the goddess who created the universe, as well as the mother of Ra (and Apep!)
But tbh I'm a little conflicted over the whole thing. Jester pointed out the possible reference to the turquoise sycamore trees and his lapis lazuli hair, and while those would be cool references, they're more obscure and definitely don't fully encompass Ra's....vibe, for lack of a better word. I honestly think the v2 or even the v1 versions of the base from the original poll would've fit the name a lot better. It's certainly not a game-breaking issue for me, but it's something I'll always be curious about the reasoning behind.

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Full support - I was here for the time the Goldens were renamed to Zivar/Zer/Zarbanu/etc. back in 2016, and that went over quite well, despite them being some of the first bases on Lioden!

Plus, the vibes don't really match Ra, as others have said. 100% on board renaming the base!

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It's not that necessary tho, I still lean mire to no support

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