Posted by Send away button that doesn't require energy

Rin (G1 Hematite) (#361240)

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2024-08-17 04:16:09
Hello!
Since the white star for chased lionesses was added in the claiming screen, I've noticed that the vast majority of the lionesses marked with it are actually regular NCLs. I understand that people prefer to chase their NCLs since they don't have to spend energy to use the "chase" button, but it's a bit frustrating to keep finding regular NCLs in the chased pool, and I think it would become unfair if the new korobela item is used on a chased lioness only to find a regular NCL instead.

My suggestion is to add a new "send away" button that doesn't require energy to be used, it won't impact karma like the "kill" and "send to nature reserve" buttons and it won't add the lionesses sent away to the chased pool like the "chase" button. I think in this way people have a way to get rid of the unwanted NCLs without using energy and without filling the chased pool with them.

If you choose "don't support" can you please explain why?

Please, take a look at this also: List of the others chased NCLs fix suggestions by Moom- (G1 Ra, oh god Jags) (#320832)



This suggestion has 17 supports and 18 NO supports.



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Edited on 29/08/24 @ 10:27:51 by Rin (G1 Hematite) (#361240)

Fraekincense (#57572)


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2024-08-17 05:16:52
Kill/Nature Reserve can be done without energy already. There's personalities that do it - Heartless & Protective.

Heartless can be obtained for 1GB with the Sangoma Mask at the personality snake.
Protective can be obtained from the March Event.

People should pick the one that aligns with their karma and just use that.



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Edited on 17/08/24 @ 05:18:41 by Fraekinn [Semi Hiatus] (#57572)

✦ SugarMix ✦ (#57837)

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2024-08-17 05:30:43
@Fraekinn [Semi Hiatus] (#57572) - Not everyone cares about karma (me for example) I don't chase/kill/send because I prefer to sell them for cheap for others to do that. However if I needed space and no one bought them I'd be more inclined to not spend energy than spending it, energy is precious in events.

With that said I'd much rather have a personality that gives me energy such as Hyperactive than spend money on having a personality that I don't care about at all because I dont care about karma.

Chased lionesses are great and the pool is filled with NCLs that were chased instead of killed/sent.

The literal reason because the pool sucks is because of people not wanting to spend energy to kill/send them...



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Fraekincense (#57572)


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2024-08-17 05:49:46
I mean personally I'd rather kill 100 lionesses in one go and save 500 energy rather than gain 30 once a day. Sure, you can chase them, but don't be all surprised Pikachu and upset when the chase pool is full of generic NCLs.



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Edited on 17/08/24 @ 05:52:24 by Fraekinn [Semi Hiatus] (#57572)

Rin (G1 Hematite) (#361240)

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2024-08-17 06:42:14
I know that there are personalities that let you kill/nature reserve without spending energy, but it cost 1GB and and maybe some players don't want to spend GB for it and/or prefer to have other personalities on their king.

My suggestion is just to create a new button to get rid of NCLs WITHOUT spending energy and WITHOUT filling the chased pool with generic lionesses. I added the "without impacting karma" bit because I wanted to point out that, since you aren't spending energy in doing so, you won't get any benefit when using it.

Idk if I explained my thoughts correctly English is not my first language



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Edited on 17/08/24 @ 06:55:43 by Rin (G1 Hematite) (#361240)

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2024-08-17 08:02:26
While I understand the point of this, I do like that there are aspects of the game that do make you make some harder decisions, including energy expenditure. It makes it feel more like a game to me and not just a breeding genetics experimentation simulator.

I do wish it was more clear that Chasing lions adds them into a "Chased pool" that other players have the chance of encountering, because I think a lot of new players don't fully understand that mechanic and chasing just seems like a kinder option.



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Moom- (G1 Ra, 1#
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2024-08-17 09:32:32
Supported. We can't just have a bunch of normal NCLS in the pool- they're also increasing since we know that 90% of the ncls we encounter are "chased," so people are increasingly chasing ncls now.

Although, I'm not too sure about the suggestion (since it would hurt the experience), but it could be limited.



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Edited on 17/08/24 @ 09:33:23 by Moom- (G1 Ra, oh god Jags) (#320832)

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2024-08-17 09:40:18
@Moom- (G1 Ra, oh god Jags) (#320832) - Just curious and don't want to PM, why are people chasing even more if they know it goes to the pool? I didnt understand that part. Cause them chasing to not spend energy I knew, but didnt know they were chasing cause of knowing the pool??



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Moom- (G1 Ra, 1#
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2024-08-17 09:43:46
I don't know- but I've personally seen a decrease in normal chased appearing on my feed- I'm not directly blaming anyone for the increase, but I feel like there are more and more ncl chased by the day.



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Cyanide 🌒 {Cream
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2024-08-28 21:59:34
Chasing already does this. Every option has a 'downside,' this is unnecessary.

Simply leave the encounter and she's deleted and you've wasted zero further energy than if you never clicked 'claim her' in the first place.



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Rin (G1 Hematite) (#361240)

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2024-08-29 01:51:14
@Cyanide tbh for this past week during exploration the only "chased" lionesses I've been finding were regular NCLs, so yeah, even if I walk away I'm kinda still wasting energy to find nothing nice
But I understand some people think it's an unnecessary addition, I just wish there was a way to fix this situation



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Edited on 29/08/24 @ 01:52:12 by Rin (G1 Hematite) (#361240)

Growrr (#16845)

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2024-08-29 05:31:35
Wouldn't it be a nice idea to add some flag to newly generated NCLs, and then delete them if they are chased? At least the chased pool will stop to be replenished by them anymore.



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Ricky/Infinightive (#177615)

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2024-08-29 05:55:00
I do not support this idea, and support what fraekinn said in her first message.
There are personalities designed to cut down on energy use, but they take away the advantage of gaining energy; it is a consequence-reward based ratio. I would rather have to choose between saving what could be 500 energy, than want only 30% energy in return from hyperactive. I use candid personally, but my point still stands.

Not everything in the game is designed to be convenient, or meant to be convenient; I'd rather not have another FOURTH button just to do the same action as kill and nature reserve just because people want to 'not use energy' when resources for that have been provided. Energy refills, and I do not believe it is something that is necessary, but rather a want because you feel you have more important things to spend your energy; while valid, is a choice you must make - use energy to delete, or use energy on explore.

There has not been an increase in the amount of NCLs present in the pool from my knowledge, it is just simply RNG telling you to do one in a polite way [and it is increasingly frustrating]; if there is, it is purely down to coincidence of increase of users = increase of chased potatoes, which is an expected outcome. This is how a game works. there will be bad sides to it, one being the chased pool; but you can support efforts trying to decrease the amount of NCLs in the pool, or increase the amounts of chased by providing them with the means to do so; send them YOUR NCLs so THEY can kill them. Simple. You get money, they get rid of the NCLs.

Or simply just click off the page when you see a chased NCL - it deletes them. Simple.

There are SO many work arounds to the kill/nature reserve issue rather than having to do unnecessary coding and implementation just to satisfy a need to delete an NCL due to frustrations - just send them to people who FODDER them and your problem is solved. If people actually did that, or realised that, gave attention to the groups/threads/people who did these services - it would be more common and we'd start seeing chased again. Look into our existing system, and work around your complaints using the already-made system, crafted by our OWN community, especially if the community for it is extremely active AND available.

For example: Zuri had a thread to mass kill ANY lions, including NCLs and they still get tons for their karma project. I buy fodder to kill myself to open up the chase pool, I have already killed 134 in just my spare time - if I personally had a steady flow of sellers, i'd be able to do so much more and we'd start seeing a fucking difference for once as more users got involved.

In other words; there are solutions within our community and economy; look for them first.



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Rin (G1 Hematite) (#361240)

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2024-08-29 07:48:47
@Infinightive (#177615) why are you mad at me?
I'm not the complaining because I don't want to use energy to kill/send to nature reserve, in fact I don't have a problem in getting NCLs to fodder and I'm also trying to keep extra space in my den to rise and chase lionesses with nice markings. I've also already joined clans that are working to clean the chased pool from potato NCLs and to chase more good ones. So please, don't tell me to look into the community first, because I've already done that, lol.
My complaint is that the chased pool is still full of potato lionesses, despite many people efforts and my suggestion was made because I though that some other players are still chasing NCLs because maybe they don't want to use THEIR energy :')



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Edited on 29/08/24 @ 08:12:41 by Rin (G1 Hematite) (#361240)

Ricky/Infinightive (#177615)

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2024-08-29 08:21:22
I will correct you there, I am not mad and I have said that in as neutral of a tone I can manage. I apologise if I have offended you, but I do not personally see anything offensive within my comment.

I have commented on the thread with my own suggestion, aimed at everyone who is reading it; it is not directly targeted at you. You have said the following:
"But I understand some people think it's an unnecessary addition, I just wish there was a way to fix this situation " I have offered a solution, a logical one that shows that this function you are suggesting is not necessary and can be avoided. I am simply stating why I do not like this idea, and believe it is stemming from a complaint; which most suggestions are, it's just what it is.
You are complaining [in a LIGHTHEARTED WAY] about a function you wish would be changed, I complained about how users don't use solutions offered by the community which are starting to die out because they don't use it.

"My complaint is that the chased pool is still full of potato lionesses, despite many people efforts and my suggestion was made because I though that some other players are still chasing NCLs because maybe they don't want to use THEIR energy :')" That is exactly why my post was made; to address and suggest alternatives rather than coding. If you are aware of these functions, that's great and my comment is not aimed at you as i am addressing the audience/readers who are not aware of it. I am also, again, explaining why I do not support the suggestion; there are means put in place, and I believe they should be utilised; simple.

"So please, don't tell me to look into the community first, because I've already done that, lol." I've already basically answered this, so I won't repeat myself other than a case of, just raise awareness to these efforts, or at least validate them within your OP so people who are not aware of them, then are aware of them. People have suggested alternatives, you have shut them down due to your own personal opinion - that's fine - but that doesn't make them invalid.

If karma doesn't bother you, great! use the personalities provided that PAIR with the kill/reserve options. If it does, align with the one you want to go with. Want to have more energy? Then don't use the personalities and just use the energy to kill/reserve, it's up to you as the player to make these touch decisions.

An option to not loose energy AND to delete these NCLs makes the entire functionality behind killing and reserving useless unless you wanted to get onto the karma side of lioden; which is not super active in my opinion. My point is that we have functions that do what you are asking for, and things that eliminate your issue; but you refuse to use them. That is my point, and it is not meant to offend as it is how I am seeing this as a situation - a choice you make as a user does not warrant a new way to kill off a lion when the ones we have been supplied with are perfectly logical and fine.

Again, if this comes across as offensive I apologise as that is not my intention and I will attempt to remove offensive material if it does cause an issue, but I was never mad with you, nor anyone else so please do not suggest I was and make me out to be the bad guy for having my own valid opinion, and defending it - as i am meant to do on a suggestion thread.



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Ricky/Infinightive (#177615)

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2024-08-29 08:25:04
additionally, there are posts made suggesting to delete lions with NCL traits when chased, to stop them from entering the pool.



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