Posted by Cubs Chased/Killed - Lioness Heat (Edited)

Axel (#6627)

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Posted on
2013-05-29 17:31:12
Hi guys.

This suggestion does NOT ask for the lionesses to go into heat immediately after you get rid of all her cubs.
So it is NOT on the rejected ideas list.


Problem:
1. When cubs are born that you are not satisfied with and you chase/kill them, you still need to wait for 20 days before you can breed your lioness. Whereas in life lionesses who lost their cubs will come into heat faster.

2. The cub market is horrible because even if people breed and get the 'wrong' cubs, they still put these on the market because they feel forced they need to do it, due to them having to wait those 20 days anyway.

3. People want some kind of 'reward' for chasing cubs, making it worth it.

4. Currently breeding projects are near impossible due to the long waiting period, even if the fail cubs are all chased/killed.

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My suggestion: if you chase off/kill the whole litter, then the 11 days of nursing should be removed from the lioness' waiting time, and only the rest should be counted. It does not put them back into heat, but will give them the usual 9 days cooldown.

This is not only a good incentive but it doesnt really give any financial or economical advantage to anyone, neither does this encourage mass-breeding to 'get the reward'. Neither will this inflate in price because it has none.

It would also help people with breeding projects. They wish to chase the fail cubs when they get a fail litter and in return they would be able to breed sooner and try again.

BUT!

It should only work if you chase the cubs on the very first Lioden day they are born. Otherwise you got to wait the 20 days.

Why?
This way preventing people from exploiting this feature and putting the cubs on the market first and then chasing them when nobody buys to get the shorter waiting period.

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There is however a question:
Wont this give people the chance to mass-produce desired cubs faster and so inflate their prices?

The answer is: No.

With the new genetics and the color groups that the cubs can inherit, the chance that you will get the 'right cub' is still as small as it ever was, if not smaller. The difference will be simply that there will be less cubs on the market because people get the incentive for chasing them off as soon as they can. The people will be encouraged to chase even those cubs that are an 'almost' case to get the perfect cubs instead.

And 'perfect' cubs are few and far between. Plus everyone has different projects.

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What do you guys think?



This suggestion has 1214 supports and 8 NO supports.



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Edited on 09/07/17 @ 21:32:13 by Axel (#6627)

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Posted on
2015-10-03 17:27:56
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Dita✧ Scoundrel
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Posted on
2015-10-05 19:53:55
I support! I hate how long it takes especially when I have to kill them in the end anyway. :c



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Black Rhinoceros (#68593)

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Posted on
2015-10-08 15:59:37
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MadAlpaca (#35465)

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Posted on
2015-10-20 16:19:14
Support!



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Aslana (#17146)

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Posted on
2015-10-20 16:44:13
Omgeeeee this is genius :D <3



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QuakingAspens (#66184)

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Posted on
2015-10-27 07:50:45
The technical nursing period is 5 days? Not 12. You can sell them when they are 5 months because they aren't in need of milk anymore



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Axel (#6627)

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Posted on
2015-10-27 08:25:34
Well, this was the nursing period back then and I still believe it is such, since the lioness still takes care of the cubs and will not go into heat while she does so.
20 days is the waiting period if you breed, while the lioness comes into heat every 9 days if she is not bred. Deducting the latter from the former, you get 11 days extra that you must wait because of the cubs.

If the cubs are chased, imo, the lioness should come into heat as if she didnt even have cubs.



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bluekat13 (#17890)

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Posted on
2016-03-28 12:59:08
The main reason I like this is because it is realistic. MAle lions chase off (or mostly kill) cubs in the wild to bring the lionesses back into estrus quicker, and I feel like that should happen in our sim game too. :)



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Posted on
2019-12-25 19:13:29
I support! Though I have a concern about this and hybrids. This might increase their population faster and they may become more common. Idk if that would be a bad or good thing, however. It seems like a cash cow for the people who already have hybrids (and some people have a handful of hybrids at that). Though, if hybrid prices drop then I know lots of poorer players who'd love that. xD Myself included.



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Edited on 25/12/19 @ 19:18:17 by Ladwick (#12065)

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Posted on
2020-01-12 12:05:42
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Jaistraw^2 (G1 Ice
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Posted on
2021-01-24 02:38:15
Aw man... with how many years this was posted ago, regardless of the over 1100 supporters, and overwhelming support to no support ratio, I'm assuming if this hasn't been picked up yet it won't... I FULLY support it anyway though! Maybe Lioden will hear our pleas one day.. u-u



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Bronzewing
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Posted on
2021-01-25 07:34:05
Support- why are you nursing cubs that don't exist? I would love to see the nursing cooldown as something added if you plan to keep or sell the cubs, with it not being an issue if you got yet more potatoes.



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Magnituda [sunrise
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Posted on
2021-01-28 07:44:31
It would decrease value of hybrids (and DUs & any other valuable lioness) drastically. 7 heats vs up to 12 heats in a lifetime makes a difference.

But it would be helpful in marking breeding project.

I still don't support



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