I actually like this idea! It should be optional if not everyone likes this idea but I would so like to have a Queen in my pride

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I do support this idea but i do not agree with keeping the females markings like a king. If that were to happen than there could be an influx of rare markings because who would ever get rid of a rare marked queen?


I do like this idea but i mean why do they need advantages? People already give their kings a queen and there doesn't need to be any stat increase or anything. Also why should they not take up territory space?

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As far as rare markings go, the system could be tweaked so that queens wouldn't pass them along as often.

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Support. I love making stories up about my pride and have my own queen, etc. This seems like great fun to me. While I would dilute her powers down a bit, I don't see why people are complaining rather rudely. If you don't like it, simply don't have her.

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I know this is not the place to do suggestions but anot.her thing we should be able to do is edit our lions like unkown heritage but it's not clickable

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Support all day

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Sounds fun! I support it. I'd never be able to choose which lioness to make queen though lol.

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I support if it's optional.

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No support. For several reasons, most of which are already mentioned though, so I'll simply say this:

There's many different ways to play the game. Some people don't want a queen. But this way, you're making it an expected part of the game, like submales. Sure, they're optional, but still expected. I have my own 'ranking' system that I change how I want in my own, specific pride, no one else's. Having it be an actual in-game thing would not only get in the way of it, but make my style of play much less fun. I'm not just talking about me either- several other people play the game different ways. Why should we spend GB on a queen to show off, because it's now expected of us? I want to play the game normally.

Also, while I personally give all my lions ranks, I know a lot of people don't. This would be even /worse/ for them, especially those who say realistically, there's the king as the leader, and females as the hunters. YES, sometimes there is female-run prides. Rarely, but sometimes. Hey, at the moment I'm actually using a lab test frog so my pride is run by a female.

But a lion doesn't have a sole female he runs the pride with. That's simply not how it goes. Yes, often times the lion may be closer with the lionesses that have been in the pride with him for some time, and in turn the lionesses will sometimes fight alongside their king from intruder lions. But those lionesses aren't queens. There's several of them, and they're fighting not only for their king to stay in power, but for their cub's lives.

There's honestly too many reasons why I don't support. This is just a few of them :/

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No support.

While sure, there might be instances where a dominant female might be realistic, but it is not nearly as usual as a submale. A submale is a realistic part of this game and works fine as it is since it really is not that different from having other lionesses. They do not give an extra advantage or add unnecessary features to the game that do not already exist.

Having a queen with the suggested features would only add more to where there already exists such features. Cubs and adols already do get training with opportunities for more stats. Lionesses do also have their own way of getting stats and exp, trough hunting (and nursing? I think they do at least.)
If there where to be a dominant lioness, it would be less realistic that they would be on their own and do their own activities like suggested. If anything, they would lead a group of lionesses to do so. My take on having a queen would be changed so the queen could possibly be the leader of hunting groups and somewhat boost that (Having a stronger queen leading the hunting group would result in better results, more prey, etc) The queen could possibly have her own slot for that, but it would be somewhat unnecessary having her own slot rather than just a nice symbol beside her name that would indicate her status.

The next problem would be inheriting the looks. You could just end up having a perfect statted with rare markings lioness that would never disappear. Some of the interesting parts of trying to breed for looks is that unless you freeze them, which would still end up with them being useless, is that they would die off in the end. Sure, you could argue having a king getting this feature would ruining the same fun, but it still does not cheat the game. If you get to have both a king with perfect stats and looks and a lioness with the same, then you would just craft perfect cubs all the time. And this could be kept going for however long you want since the lioness can not even run off, have her looks die or be chased. This would ruin some of the core values of the game. Even if there is the option to not have a queen, players who choose not to would end up with a huge disadvantage (especially since the "extra stast when breeding" feature.) The market would end up ruined because people manage to just queen their favorite mutated female and just lion ball them and have thousands of them and just inherit the mutation each retirement. Or they would have both a king and queen with special bases or markings, breeding a thousand of that base and marking.

The suggestion of a queen just adds to something that does not need more. If you really want a queen that much, do it in a way that does not break the game. Just slap on a crown in their under the name and call them a queen. It really does not need more than that.

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(Thanks Tuvaxen! You explained a lot of things I couldn't :"D)

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@Firecracker
(Aaahhh thank you! Tried my best to get all my thoughts on it down! I am sure there is something I missed rip)

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maybe the queen could be the first lioness the current king


AND if you don't like your queen we could make a current lioness in the pride challenge her for the throne but it would cost you ten water-roosts or any in game energy boost for the lioness to try challengeing

SUPPORT :)

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I was thinking of this Queen Slot idea.
Just like in real packs there is often an alpha female that is the more rulling one.
So this idea will be more like the King roll.

The Pride can only have ONE Queen at the time.
You King/you choose the Queen she will age up to 2 Years if she is younger than that.
And down to 8 Year if older than 10 Years. At age of 14 when she almost can`t have another litter anymore you can choose to replace her for 10 Sbs. She will then spend rest of life as normal member in the pack.
If you want to replace her before her time you have to pay 10 GBs
If you don`t choose a new Queen before she turns 15 Year a random lioness will take over/ or the one with highest stats?

Other benefits the Queen slots could have:

1. Always litters of at least 2 - 4 Cubs! (know someone has said before)
2. As the special lady she is, you can choose to keep her apperance when she retires or take new Queen look.!
3. Better STAT gaining in hunts, as the Queen and should be the one commanding the hunting she will gain more stats! (Half said before)?
4. Her own interaction like talking to the King about pack things like training of the young. Food hoarding. Bad mood in pride.!

WHY it should only be ONE Queen slot and not too easy to replace her. Because of benefits many will probably abuse the roll if you could switch her out as fast as you take in and out Hunting Lioness.
I think (Many) of us wish we could be allowed to easy keep the dream look Queen and breed her look as much as we want and improve her look and stats.
(I know we have Crunchy Worm for copy look, but this idea will make it special to get your dream lioness. And I don`t think this idea destroy the Crunchy marked and it`s function if it is only ONE Queen slot for each Account) Also WHY it should be as hard to replace her as your King!

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@Wendou For the always 2-4 cubs thing, even more no support. Everyone would put their muties there and lion ball their mutated queen, rendering GOPs and Buffy Balls near useless.

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