Sango, the problem with increasing refill costs is that it punishes those who skip as well as those who put the time in to hunt 10+ times a day. And it puts those who have limited funds at a disadvantage to keep refilling to keep hunting, as those who have/had the SB to fund skipping can afford to keep refilling better than those who don't skip.

Axel and Shichibi, agreed. I hope that sheer numbers isn't going to win this... e.e

And Eri, do you mean the 100SB skips how it was before, or option 1? o-0

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They said what we had before. So not the current system, but the original. I think.

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That's my main concern with this whole poll.

The wording is very vague and can be confusing. I don't think a lot of people know which "original" system and they don't know that Option 3 isn't not necessarily going to cost 1000 SB either.

The whole poll was rushed, not worded with enough information, and basically seems a little skewed to me to try and push Option 2 as being "best" without explaining how much it affects many active players.

I'm not saying it's exactly deliberate but it's definitely frustrating because it feels like a lot of the votes would be quite different if it was worded differently. Instead, people are glancing over the first post and going "Yuck, I don't want to be 1000 instead of 100! That's awful because I'm broke/cheap/saving/whatever" and just voting for what they think will let them keep most of their SB.

It's just very frustrating.

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I agree with Le Greater Bilby, Axel, Shichibi (and others who have stated this earlier).

I cannot even think of a game that isn't PLAY to WIN... (But is there even a "Win" in Lioden? We all play to achieve our own personal goals. There isn't a WOW I am now the winner of Lioden option.)

Time invested should affect outcome. It is simply how the world works.

Examples:
Two people play the violin. The one who practiced the most and spends the most amount of time at it plays better -- period.

Artist who spend more time on their art, draw better.

Athletes who spend the most time at practice, play better.

etc, etc,etc....

The amount of time you spend at things affects how well you do at them.

That being said, since the skip was introduced those players who do not have as much time should not be punished by having that feature removed.

Yet, those who have the time to invest into Lioden should also have the additional hunts feature returned so they can invest their time that fits their play style.


From my own person experience with the skip (as well as seeing what others have to say about it) I think we all need to be honest about one thing... The skip is as much for stats as the additional hunts are. A very lucky person might bring back large carcasses each time they skip making it lean more towards the "I need it for food" argument - but I truly believe food is cheaper to simply buy instead of wasting 100sb each each hunt and possibly only getting human legs as food.

So we all want stats (probably not all - I know there are a lot of people out there that have no interest in stats), I totally get that... But the way it is right now really isn't the best solution. Those of you who are thinking this will allow you to "catch up" with the active are unable to see that this will not happen. This has basically set a limit on all lionesses potential. There is no catching up...

EDIT:
I want there to be an option that still allows people to play according to their own play style. Lioden needs both the active and the casual players. We all make up the Lioden family...

I also want the creators to build the game they want to build. If the creators want a game that is less focused on stats as they are now - and take the game in a new direction, I support that. It might be difficult to adjust to these changes as they come. :)
Although I know that no one probably wants this game to succeed more than they do.
I really do love Lioden and I think we all basically want the same thing --- For Lioden to prosper, to grow, and to become one hell of a great game..

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Well, from the looks of the poll most people either don't fully understand the options or they want the cheap skip with no additional hunts, which doesn't really help anything except you can now hunt your lions in a quicker fashion but with no chance of getting more than ten hunts per lioness. Again, not that this really affects me at all, but I don't see why you don't just change it back to extra hunts and 1GB skip, that way it goes back to the way it was and we won't have any more problems out of the system that wasn't broken. Seems like a silly thing to need a poll for when the fix is easy enough.

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Gosh Bynks, yes! I agree wholeheartedly! And Bilby, Axel, Sphinx and Wespa! You all speak my mind. It's only been a couple of days and I feel there's no point for me to log in for more than an hour max. It's become sooo damn boring since I can hunt the ladies in 5 minutes, go explore and that's that. As I said to a friend of mine, if the hunting stays as it is now I won't bother spending a lot of time on anymore and eventually I'll leave alltogether. And one thing's for sure, I won't bother spending any more money on GB either...

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number 2 definitely!!

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For those of you saying, Number (whatever) Is best for me because its all that matters to me, remember something...

Not everyone uses extra hunts, but at the same time, not everyone has a large pride. Not everyone cares about prune bases. Not everyone likes cobweb. Not everyone cares about patrolling sub males. Not everyone uses the food % guide to feed the most optimal food to the lions with the right amount of hunger to be efficient. Not everyone likes special decor or backgrounds… Lioden caters to all of those people.

Taking away extra hunts just because you don't use them and like the idea of the 100 silver beetle hunt skips is like taking away a base color for other players just because you don't like it and would never use it. It's the same as as removing all extra backgrounds and special custom decor just because you don't have the money or time to acquire them. If you can't get a cool custom decor, why should anyone have one? Lioden caters to all types of players. If you don't use the added hunts, or if you don't use the hunt skip feature, why would you want to take that away from people who do? There is surely a way that the admins can make it work so that everyone is actually happy here without completely removing a feature that benefits a large number of people.

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The poll outcome at the moment is very obvious.

Why does it say then on my hunting page I can pay 1000SB or 1 GB to skip? What gives?

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