-LOCKED - Hunting Stuffs - Poll Time!
Posted on 2014-12-15 06:33:03
Hello lions!

We've listened to your feedback, suggestions and comments and have decided to give you guys a poll regarding the hunting feature to see what you feel is best, and to gauge more public opinion and where it's sitting.

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There are four options that are available on the poll, and I will explain each of them:

Option 1 - Revert back to 1 GB to skip hunts, and additional hunts go back to normal.
Basically we return to how it was before the SB skip was switched. Skipping was a luxury.

Option 2 - Keep the new system. Pay SB to skip hunts still, but no additional hunts.
Everyone has the same playing field, and it's effectively capped.

Option 3 - Change the system to have skipping incur a cost of 1000SB OR 1 GB (whichever currency you'd prefer to use), with each skip causing the price to increase in tiers. The proposed is increasing the SB cost by 100SB at a time, so the first skip would cost 1000SB, second would be 1100SB, 1200SB, and so on and so forth. Additional hunts would return as they were before - 10 SB per hunt.

Option 4 - The same as option 3, except also tier up the cost of additional hunts. First additional hunt costing 100SB, increasing in 10SB increments. Second 110SB, then 120sb, etc etc.

You can vote on the polls page - click here for a direct link there.

Please keep in mind that Lioden is really dear to us and we care about all of you on here! We listen to each and every one of you but have to make decisions to try to balance the game where we can. We don't want to remove competition and we also don't want to make things completely unfair, either, so it's all about finding a nice middle.

Thanks for sticking with us guys!

Pls don't poop on me for this. ;0;



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Kar (#25720)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 07:01:53
Lets go with Option 2



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Before (#25066)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 07:02:13
Hmm... I agree with none of these. I have not used the new feature yet, but how I was intending to use it conflicts with all of these.

1. Costs GB, and back to not using it at all.

2. Probably the best solution for me personally, since it allows me to top off my hunts if I don't get all ten done in one day. However, it would not allow me to use up my excess SB once I reach 5000 without sacrificing the reason to come back every 30 minutes. Also, terrible for the leaderboards since it stagnants stat gain.

3. Too expensive for casual topping off when I don't get all ten done. Would allow me to use up my excess SB when I reach 5000, though.

4. Same as three, except now even more expensive assuming I actually do get all ten hunts done that day.

My ideas:

A. Keep it at 100SB, but have the database keep track if you used any skips that rollover. If you have, disallow hunts to be added. Additionally, if hunts are added during that rolloever, disallow skipping.

B. Raise the SB price of skipping each skip. Start at 100, then it goes to 200, then 300, etc. Allow using GB as an alternative at any point. If someone wants to spend that much on a single stat, let them. Adding hunts is still present here.



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Dunnart [On Hiatus] (#29090)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 07:03:25
Thanks Kitty. C: Sorry, I posted before seeing your post on page 3. CX



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Posted on
2014-12-15 07:03:41
Griff: But how would keeping with option 2 make it any better, when the people at the top will just get higher, and people below would have no chance to catch up? It'll be a monolopy of high stats, both in the market and in leaderboards, which is the large issue, even with the 'no extra gain for active players' issue aside.

EDIT:

Before: I do like your first alternate solution, but I see the second idea still being an issue, as increasing prices may not be a deterrent fo everyone. That being said, your first idea would probably make the most amount of people happy out of all the suggestions I've seen, or close to it ouo



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Edited on 15/12/14 by Maulise | Autumn Floof (#32469)

MacCready (#4374)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 07:03:48
Option 2.



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Nny (#257)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 07:04:18
I chose option three[3] simply because I thought it was the most balanced to me, although my opinion on that may change so be warned. I REALLY love being able to skip a day of hunting if I'm busy and being able to do 20 the next day.

In all honesty though, I would rather see any of the other options added than two[2]. That is the only one I'm seriously against and really, really, really don't want in the game. .-.



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Edited on 15/12/14 by Nny [Ish a busy Bumble Bee] (#257)

cheetah >.< (#38280)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 07:06:24
I really think that number 2 is the best option because I work hard to do 10 hunts/day but because of school, I don't have the time to spend on all of the extras. :)



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Bamon (#12532)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 07:10:29
I have spent a lot of money on this game, and for the most part I do not regret it. However as I now work every week day my time is limited when it comes to getting online. Since I started working I have not been able to get even one lioness through ten hunts, and thats even after I've cut down my pride. When the skip waiting time fee changed to SB I felt like it was Christmas already! Finally I have an option to give my girls the hunting they deserve and do not get due to time restraints. I can finally be on an even footing with everyone else in the game as far as hunting goes. Not only that but I finally have something to spend my SB on!

I am active, I have been so since I joined. I have paid real money into this site. A lot of it. I still voted for Option 2.

Option 1 would be a disappointment for me as I would be back to square one.

Option 3 is far too expensive for me. I can't afford that. Not when I'm being paid a UK apprenticeship wage at 28 years old. I'm sorry, I just can't. No. I shall be very sad if this comes into play.

Option 4. Now whilst this is slightly cheaper then Option 3, it would in no time increase to being far too expensive to afford for me. Not all of us are made of money.

I want this site to keep going, I love it, but I wish there was a lot less complaining. No one is ever going to catch up to the steriod lions and lionesses in the game. Why are we all trying to do it even as we all claim we want the stats to balance out? Option 2 is the fairest for everyone and I for one will be severely disappointed if any other option is chosen.



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Edited on 15/12/14 by Bamon2 (The 200-reds!) (#12532)

Griff 🐈 (#26694)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 07:11:05
@Maulise, option 2 isn't great in my eyes, but it is the only one that limits the amount of hunts per lioness per day. There will always be a divide[especially since people have broken the leaderboards/ inflated stat prices for probably a good year just in a few days with the abandoned unlimited system] but making it even bigger does not seem like a good idea to me. There definitely needs to be some upper limit to hunts per lioness.

Edit: I only posted one alternate idea. I just compared stat grinding in hunting to buying stats for GB because that is what it essentially is, and while it would make stat grinders happy it goes against the idea of GB being a luxury item, and I am personally not a fan of the idea. Though it certainly would be good for the site.



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Edited on 15/12/14 by Griff (#26694)

Jacques CP Faircross (#47535)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 07:13:08
First seems best



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Nyoka (#48468)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 07:14:01
What Nny said.

I only now noticed that comments were being considered for options on this post, because I'm silly and wasn't thinking before apparently, so comments.

The price seems a little high on three given that it's tiered, but I wouldn't want it much lower- definitely not lower than 500 (+100 for each tier), preferably over that. Even though it felt slightly high, I voted on 3.

I also wouldn't mind if the price remained semi low (really, anywhere in 200-1500), but had a cap. That way, people who work or study can get their pride fed more quickly and get some stats, but it couldn't be exploited. Perhaps a cap of 10 skips- that's full hunts for 5 lionesses. I think if this was done, a lower price with a lower cap or a higher price with a higher cap would make sense.

I'm sympathetic to GB needing to be needed, but I think reverting back to only GB is fairly pay-to-win. Also, I wouldn't spend my GB on it anyway, so it feels like it's less useful, although obviously I'm not able to look at your charts and see how many people spend GB on what.

ETA- Also, I forgot about additional hunts because I never use them. They weren't exploited so much before this change, so I think they'd be fine back as they were. I wouldn't mind if they either had a cap or were tiered, but I think the new pricing on them is a bit high. If the skip button is kept low-ish (under 1000) in price, I do think the add hunts should be raised in price to slow exploits.



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Edited on 15/12/14 by Nyoka (#48468)

Thalassa (#8567)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 07:14:25
I'm a bit concered about the way the poll is going. If what's said is true and people are voting #2 to make it impossible to grind for stats, I'd be worried. High stat breeders bring a lot of money to the site. Think how many dollars Sentry brought to the site by himself, without considering any of the other high stat stud. Those guys don't come out of nowhere. A high statted lion and a high statted lioness are needed. If one of them is missing the end result would be worse, their fees lower and therefore they will bring less money to the site. No one is going to pay 25 GB for a stud even if it is the lead male in stats. Not when they can't get a lioness to complement him and get decent cubs out of him. I know I wouldn't and I mainly care for stats.



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Posted on
2014-12-15 07:15:23
I actually agree with Griff on this. Why not limit the amount of hunts you can add per day in addition to a tiered SB/GB fee for skipping hunts?



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🌸Crafty🌸 (#35722)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 07:19:13
I'm 100% fine with any option that's not option #2 as long as we get the option to add hunts back.



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Edited on 15/12/14 by Rinn (Gonna poop in yer house) (#35722)

Shichibi (#34877)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 07:21:21
I really hope this is not the way where this is going.
Of course a lot of people, who don't spend much time on LD, will vote for #2, because it is the most logical thing for them, because additional hunts were no use for them anyway, BUT it affects people who can and willingly spend more time on LD to put in extra huntings and such.

This, including the taking away of the additional hunts rather than the skipping time, all seems a bit rushed from you guys @ staff =/ and it saddens me a bit.
I know you try to appease people, but this topic should have been put up, explaining what it does at the moment, PLUS what the current situation is, reflecting it and the concerns of the community both sides.

Then it should have been said that the poll will be coming in like 2 days, so it will give people time to think about it more and no rushed decisions are made.

If this is going where it is heading now, then we will stuck with high statted lions ruling the market for months/years and the competitions for your hard work is gone.

The taking away of additional hunts instead of removing the skipping, which would have been the most logical reaction and now this all-of-a-sudden poll, seems rather rushed by you guys ... and it saddens me =C.
If I cannot work on my lionesses (withou skipping) anymore and giving them additional hunts whenever I can, then I don't have much to do here anymore, which is really, REALLY sad, because I just got into the whole game in its fullest.



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