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 Zora (#3204) Majestic View Forum Posts  Posted on 2015-09-10 11:32:35 |
Credits to Dawnstar. [Lilac] (#51049) for helping me think of this I know that I've had this problem recently, and I'm like 100% positive other people had too. Basically, I was harassed, threatened, and called slurs. And while I did report it (Of course!) It took a day before it was even claimed, leaving me feeling really unsafe. This user was also reported by a few people who chose to defend me, but I didn't feel like the situation had been dealt with. (Though it has since I originally posted this, so don't worry!) So my idea is this: There should be certain words in the modbox that would trigger Mods to come look at them. The words would be stuff like: "Kill" "Threaten" "Harassment" Etc. Janxxy (#61852) suggested that there be a subgroup in the Modbox where you'd report these types of things, so that smaller issues like minor ToS breaking and stuff don't get pushed back. Gnarlandis (#66351) suggested that, rather than have to report a whole thread, you should be able to report a single post. "I'm not sure if someone said this already, but mods should also add derogative slurs to the list, such as homophobic slurs/racist slurs/ableist slurs. I know that Lioden strives for a safe community where everyone, regardless of identity, is equal, and I believe that adding oppressive/discriminative slurs to the blacklist would help. :D" - Halt (#79087) EDIT; Thank you everyone for the 200 supports! I can't believe how fast the supports added up! |
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FoolsgoldFenrir (#27778)
Unholy View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-09-27 00:54:35 |
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FoolsgoldFenrir (#27778)
Unholy View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-09-27 01:04:54 |
And after watching that video about that game, oh god... MY EYES ;-; Not to mention, every day.... "WHAT FOR SPIKE?" "GIFT ME!" "KILLS NN!" It's just no ^ Everyday behavior of that game. Good thing we were able to keep Lioden mature. A lot more mature than that game, at least.  0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 27/09/15 @ 08:05:23 by ~Simba the Fluffy Lion~ (#27778) |
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Zora (#3204)
Majestic View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-09-27 04:32:46 |
I think that the 16+ rule helps a lot, I really hate having to deal with, like, 13 year olds 0 players like this post! Like? |
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FoolsgoldFenrir (#27778)
Unholy View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-09-27 13:07:22 |
Yeah... if Lioden wasn't 16+, no doubt this game would turn out like the other one. Although there's no way to prevent underaged players from getting in, at least there's a way to get them out. Annd I forgot abotu taking this to PMs... wanna send your reply to me via PM? 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Maru (#38081)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-09-28 13:12:24 |
Ugh... ADD does NOT make people mean. I should know! No excuse! Anyway... Support! Support, support, support! I don't care if it's this exact idea, because I don't know exactly what the mods see when they're dealing with reports, but anything to make reports of threats and harassment inescapably obvious is good. I don't think it'll help short-term, given what Xylax was saying (assuming I followed. >_>; I understood that there's not enough of a backlog to cause any report to be lost regardless of the content) but long-term as the site gets more popular it may help a lot. Go ahead and put it in, I say. Also, the thing about blocked people not being able to post on your threads- YES! THIS! It'll let us shut the toxic people out on our own, or at least give us a fighting chance. (because more than just the target will block a bully, most likely) 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Zora (#3204)
Majestic View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-09-28 13:16:53 |
I know! Aspergers I can forgive a little bit, I know a few kids with Aspergers and they can't always control what they say, but the know enough to stop when asked, so again, no excuse! Thank you for supporting! I think that there must be tons of reports, especially considering how many people are on this site, and there's not enough mods to deal with all the reports, so something more important might get pushed back just because no one is sure what's inside it. Hopefully this idea and the one about blocked people not being allowed to post on your threads will get put in, I think that they'll be super helpful! 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Maru (#38081)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-09-28 16:59:11 |
I'm sure they do deal with a ton of reports, and that load will hopefully increase as the site becomes more and more popular. So putting something in place- if only to make people feel more secure- is a really good idea. I'm not sure why it isn't already in place that a blocked person can't post on your threads... It seems like a no-brainer to me, but that nearly always means I've missed something. ^_^; Is there a downside I'm not seeing? I mean, I guess cliques could use it to bully people or each other via exclusion, but the site's big enough now I don't see that being a huge problem.... I think? 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Zora (#3204)
Majestic View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-09-28 23:45:04 |
I guess it could be that maybe the person you blocked wants to apologize or something, and so they post on your thread, but I don't see that being very likely 0 players like this post! Like? |
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nadia (#47839)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-09-29 15:14:53 |
I wholeheartedly support! This sounds like a wonderful idea to implement! There would be things that have to be tweaked based on earlier posts of using different ways to bypass the trigger (if implemented). I think it could be an effective tool for minimizing the use of threatening behaviour to other players and could help the lioden staff if it is done correctly. Being harassed online or anywhere is a horrible experience and I am really sad that you had to experience it Evagoblin I hope you are doing well and that the harasser has been dealt with. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Zora (#3204)
Majestic View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-09-29 15:17:32 |
Thank you! Don't worry, the problem was dealt with a few days after posting this (Way too long, in my opinion, but the mods do what they can) And I'm a strong person, I've had to deal with worse! Even trying to bypass the trigger would be HARD to do, and from what I've heard and experienced, most harassers won't put in that much thought or effort into harassing someone else (I could totally be wrong tho!) 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Axel (#6627)
Pervert View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-09-30 00:22:32 |
Absolutely no support for making blocked people unable to post into your topics. People block for whatever reason and could just block you so you wont see the topic or cannot reply to it. Like, you have a debate with someone on a thread and you would block them, making sure you have the last word. Plus the block feature is too widely used for something so severe. That would backfire heavily. Otherwise, I would support this. But not the thread thing. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Zora (#3204)
Majestic View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-09-30 00:31:50 |
I mean, if you scroll through the comments on this thread, you can see how my harasser had tracked me down even though we'd both blocked each other. This person was relentlessly harassing me until they were banned, but even then made another account to try to harass me again. I feel like you shouldn't use the block feature unless someone is spamming you, harassing you, or just making you uncomfortable (Asking for personal information, prying too hard into your life outside of lioden, just doing really creepy stuff) Of course, I can't control who uses the block feature for what, but I feel like in my scenario, it would have been incredibly helpful if that person wasn't able to post on threads I made (Such as this one) And I don't think I'd want the block feature to work as in, you block someone, they can't post on any thread you've posted in. It would only be threads that you've created, because I can understand your concern for people abusing the ability. And I feel like if you're debating with someone, and they've gotten upset enough to block you so they can have the last word, that conversation was already going downhill pretty fast. And about making a post about a person but blocking them so they won't see it, that's not right. You aren't allowed to make call-out posts, and the block thing wouldn't prevent someone from looking at a thread, just replying to it. I totally understand if you still don't want to support, but I hope you at least consider what I've said. Thank you for your input, you raised some good points! 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Axel (#6627)
Pervert View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-09-30 00:40:21 |
I know. I know. But you need to understand that not only those are blocked who do wrong. But there are a bunch of people who are blocked for no reason or because their lions are priced too high and they dont like it, or they are the ones bullied and the bully blocked them, etc. It is too widely used for such a feature. It is enough to make someone upset and harassed by participating in a debate or a thread is made with a hidden message towards them and they cannot reply because they were blocked by the person. Seeing a topic and not being able to reply to it is one of the most frustrating things on Earth. And giving them the ability to not even see the topic would undermine the users' right to site content. Your case is unfortunate and I am glad it was taken care of but people will misuse the feature. There is no mod-controlled blocking (only the embargo, which a mod or admin can put between you and another user per request if the reason is good enough), so it is bound to be used for the smallest and most ridiculous reasons. Again, I understand your reasons but it is too harsh a feature for everyday use. As far as I know, there is (or will be) a feature that makes sure you cannot see the post of a blocked person, only if you choose to do so by clicking on it. Choose to ignore. Dont feed the troll but ignore it. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Maru (#38081)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-09-30 10:27:44 |
I'm not sure I agree. I think that that sort of thing does happen, but not nearly as often as you seem to think. Also, the "Chatterbox" threads that the people wouldn't be able to view wouldn't be essential site content. It's not like they wouldn't be able to post on the News threads or post threads of their own in "I'm Lost" if they needed help, or report bugs. And if someone innocent gets blocked and really feels strongly that that was, in itself, a form of harassment (like if "hidden messages" are being used as you suggested) that would be a point to involve the moderators, I would think. I also disagree that it's "too harsh." So you can't post to a couple of threads you probably shouldn't be posting to anyway... it's not that big a deal. As you suggest, move on and ignore it. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Zora (#3204)
Majestic View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-09-30 17:03:11 |
I kind of agree with both of you. On the one hand, yes, it could be abused, but on the other, if you're blocking someone because of something like lion pricing, why would you want them commenting on your threads? (Although I can't picture very many people doing that) And if hidden messages were being used, then, as Maru said, it could be seen as a form of harassment and should be taken to the mods. (Just because you can't comment on a blocked post, doesn't mean you can't screenshot it! I think I agree with Maru more, though there would have been nicer ways to phrase it (No shade to Maru tho!) 0 players like this post! Like? |
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