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Posted by | [++] Modbox Trigger Words (300+ supports!) |
![]() Zora (#3204) Majestic View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-09-10 11:32:35 |
Credits to Dawnstar. [Lilac] (#51049) for helping me think of this I know that I've had this problem recently, and I'm like 100% positive other people had too. Basically, I was harassed, threatened, and called slurs. And while I did report it (Of course!) It took a day before it was even claimed, leaving me feeling really unsafe. This user was also reported by a few people who chose to defend me, but I didn't feel like the situation had been dealt with. (Though it has since I originally posted this, so don't worry!) So my idea is this: There should be certain words in the modbox that would trigger Mods to come look at them. The words would be stuff like: "Kill" "Threaten" "Harassment" Etc. Janxxy (#61852) suggested that there be a subgroup in the Modbox where you'd report these types of things, so that smaller issues like minor ToS breaking and stuff don't get pushed back. Gnarlandis (#66351) suggested that, rather than have to report a whole thread, you should be able to report a single post. "I'm not sure if someone said this already, but mods should also add derogative slurs to the list, such as homophobic slurs/racist slurs/ableist slurs. I know that Lioden strives for a safe community where everyone, regardless of identity, is equal, and I believe that adding oppressive/discriminative slurs to the blacklist would help. :D" - Halt (#79087) EDIT; Thank you everyone for the 200 supports! I can't believe how fast the supports added up! |
FoolsgoldFenrir (#27778)
Unholy View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-10-03 07:29:41 |
Yes, Axel, Eva already asked you to stop. It's her thread, please don't make it more toxic than it already was. At first, what you were saying made sense, but now it doesn't. To be honest, I feel this suggestion needs to be implemented, whether the trolls like it or not. Frankly, it's only harsh on the people who deserve to have this affect them. It does look like aggression. Once again, if Eva asked you to leave, it's wise to do so. ![]() |
Zora (#3204)
Majestic View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-10-03 07:33:01 |
I understand where you're coming from, but since it's already been discussed in the last two pages, I'm not going to be talking about it anymore, sorry! I understand if you don't want to support this thread because of that, but I'm going to leave it because I think it's a good idea ![]() |
Sublime [Hiatus] (#39505)
![]() Divine View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-10-05 14:04:39 |
Zora (#3204)
Majestic View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-10-05 14:11:38 |
FoolsgoldFenrir (#27778)
Unholy View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-10-06 02:08:06 |
Dam (#7325)
Maneater View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-10-06 02:29:27 |
No support from me. When people start getting too aggressive on chat, 90% of times there is a mod/admin around, and when I don't see one and I dislike the subject, I either try to change it in a subtle way without mini-modding or I close chat and be done with it. If I strongly disagree with someone or feel disrespected, I will block and report said person, and close chat until it's resolved. I will ignore said person. If you block someone, they are already unable to contact you privately, and their posts in the forum will be hidden unless you choose to see it. I don't see why they shouldn't be able to post on someone's thread just because they are blocked. People will block each other over the silliest things. I'm sorry but I don't see how Alex was ever not civil towards you, for example. Simply asking someone not to post on a thread just because you made it, specially a thread made to gather different opinions such as Game Development, is silly. I personally don't support chat having trigger words or any form of word block because the world and other people are not required to shape according to your personal needs. Words you suggested can and are usually used here in the context of the game "How many things do I have to kill for X result?". If someone is triggered by the word "orange", then it's blocked and no one else is ever allowed to speak of oranges again? I'm sorry but the world just doesn't work like that. There are sites, usually 12+ or no age limit, which have strong blocks. Lioden is 16+ and I believe everyone can handle the word "kill". I believe it would be possible to reach some kind of middle ground here, but I don't think someone's freedom of posting should be restricted. If someone you blocked shows up, their post will be hidden and you can pretend it's not even there. Basically the same thing as fully blocking them from posting, with the added benefit that they will not know they are blocked and might save them some frustration. ![]() |
FoolsgoldFenrir (#27778)
Unholy View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-10-06 02:33:32 |
Dam, you do provide a very good case. I agree for it for the most part. However, Axel did not leave at first when Eva asked him/her to drop the matter politely. It's a good thing they did now. Though both Eva and I feel this is a good idea, so I think Eva wants to keep it up. Sorry if I sounded mean, I didn't try to be mean here. ![]() |
will; [sepia|fringe] (#61988)
Bone Collector View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-10-06 02:36:27 |
Dam (#7325)
Maneater View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-10-06 02:39:21 |
I see your point, but unless you are a mod/admin, what authority do you have to ask people to stop posting? Specially on a thread meant to expose your opinions and debate about future game features? She did do so politely, but still. Why should someone have to leave because you don't agree with their opinion? Because I also have an opposing opinion, so should I see myself out and consider myself blocked? ![]() |
FoolsgoldFenrir (#27778)
Unholy View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-10-06 02:52:00 |
Well, I do see your opinion too. It's not specifically for that, what if the person didn't want to talk about ti anymore, but the other person kept pushing it out at them? Maybe it should be a seperate feature to allow a certain user not to post on your thread anymore, but it has to be a good reason? And a staff member will have to approve it before it's official. That can stop harrassers and trolls from getting rid of people calling out their wrongdoings, and along with the reason, proof of it must be presented too? ![]() |
CasualPessimist #gaggle (#41056) Remarkable View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-10-06 03:00:59 |
Maybe I misunderstood or missed something, but I don't see anything about trigger words in the chat. This thread is about having trigger words in the modbox, right? ![]() |
Dam (#7325)
Maneater View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-10-06 03:15:54 |
CasualPessimist- yes, you are correct, I misunderstood. But my point remains - a mod to be summoned because of certain trigger words can be misleading, because a computer cannot perceive the difference between 'kill' being used to threaten someone and the same word being used in a light context. Also, from my understanding, when mods are online they deal with these issues instantly. But sometimes they are not online, or the situation requires an admin to take part, which can then take longer to be solved. Edit- Simba- Yes, in extreme cases, I guess players could be able to use that feature. But if a player has made something serious to piss someone off, they will likely receive some sort of ban or punishment anyway. ![]() Edited on 06/10/15 @ 10:17:24 by Dam (#7325) |
CasualPessimist #gaggle (#41056) Remarkable View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-10-06 04:18:57 |
I agree, it's impossible for a computer to tell the difference between "kill a lion" and "kill a person," and that's causing a lot of issues for this suggestion. So what if there was a section of the modbox where you could specifically report things like threats and harassment? :o ![]() |
Zora (#3204)
Majestic View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-10-06 14:01:18 |
I had previously had the "Kill" example set as "Murder" and people had problems with that because of the murder stone. You can't please everyone! If you can think of another word to replace that one, tell me and I'll change it! There is already another suggestion within mine that there should be a specific modbox for those heavier reports. Thank you, Simba, for dealing with this while I wasn't around, I've already spoken about this, I won't speak about it again. It stays up, and if that means you won't support it, then that's your choice. I feel like there's already two examples here where I would've used that feature (When my harasser started bothering me on this thread, and when Axel refused to let up after I'd said I didn't want to speak about it anymore because I felt disrespected.) And I feel like it's a good idea, and it's my thread. I really don't want to be spending all my time trying to cater to everyone, because I'll be caught in a constant spiral of people not liking what I've put in. Now please, as I've said several times before, I really don't want to speak on this topic anymore. You're more than welcome to tell me why you won't support this thread, though I'd appreciate suggestions on how to make it better more than just saying you don't like it. I'll listen to you even if you don't offer suggestions, but I may not add/remove something because you feel like it should/shouldn't belong. ![]() |
Starwolf - semi-haitus (#28052) Terrifying View Forum Posts ![]() Posted on 2015-10-06 15:39:47 |
Honestly, I'd rather the 'not able to post on thread after being blocked' to be put into a different thread ^.^' I feel that that would help settle things, since then they could support the orginial topic, but not have to post about not supporting that part. ... but that's just my thought ^.^ I support the first part, but is on the fence apart the other part ^.^ ![]() |