Posted by -STUCK- Mutation Suggestions Masterpost - Spoilers

Xylax (#4)

Dreamboat of Ladies
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2016-09-02 00:45:59
WARNING - ALL LINKS ON THE LIST MAY CONTAIN DISTURBING PHOTOS OF MUTATED INDIVIDUALS. YOU ARE OPENING THE PHOTOS WITH RISK OF SEEING SOMETHING THAT MIGHT UPSET YOU. THESE ARE ACTUAL PHOTOS AND NOT SOFTENED DRAWINGS OF CUTE BABBY LIONS

These are suggestions accepted, planned or considered with very high chance of success.
All approved mutations (or partially approved threads) receive a [vv] symbol. Duplicates I will just lock cause no point for me to have more than 1 of the same suggestion - don't get upset your suggestion is locked and other isn't - the idea is the same and it won, that's what counts!

If I did not approve your mutation it means I am thinking about it, waiting for more player thoughts or I didn't see it yet :o
2020 note: I stopped updating this thread too often, but did a clean up in May

Also, we have some mutations planned or are thinking about some, that aren't on the list, such as sub-mutations, rare conditions, spoilers that would ruin fun or challenges we're unsure of.

Visible since birth


Hairless - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult
Hairy Tail - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult
Ear Tufts - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult
Polydactyly - could give stat boost on birth - Art change: Birth to Adult. Possible pose preference to show off paws at nicer angle.
Brachycephaly - (1 mane version) - Game Effect: like Blind - Art change: Birth to Adult
Syndactyly - LINK - Game Effect: like Blind - Art change: Birth to Adult
Cleft Nose - LINK - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult. Possible pose preference to show off nose at nicer angle.
Double Ears - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult
Curled Tail - LINK - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult
Arachnodactyly - Game Effect: stat penalty on birth - Art change: Birth to Adult
Double Canines - game effect: hunting/patrolling/battling boosts - Art change: Lineart only, cub to adult.
Cutaneous Asthenia - Limbs that look like wings - no game effect - Art change: Birth to Adult
Leucism - like Achromia and just cover the lion with half transparent light version - Art change: Lineart Cover only, cub to adult.
Erythrism - all the dark colours have red/yellow tint - no game effect - Art change: marking recolours for all stages

Primordial Dwarfism - Game Effect: Pygmy lions, adults looking a bit like cubs still - works like Blind + cannot even breed. Dies early at 6-8 years. Big stat penalty.


Visible at Adulthood


Acromegaly - very overgrown lion, 1mane version for any type. Art change: Adult Female/Male stages different - no game effect
Overgrown Tongue - no game effect - Art change: different lineart
Excess fur for males - Hypertrichosis - planned as an applicator to match Overgrown Fur on females. Art change: Adult Male stage different. 1 mane version for any type.
Roman Nose - no game effect - Art change: Adult Female/Male stages altered. Possible pose preference to show off the nose at nicer angler.


Can show at cub-teen stages


Curly Fur - LINK - no game effect - shows at 1 year - Art change: Base only, Teen to Adult. 1 mane version.
Elongated Tail - Art change: only tail art altered - shows at 3 months - no game effect


LETHAL


Those cubs will be removed from Cub Training
Phocomelia - deformed limbs - dies at 3 months - Art: 1 Cub version
Progeria - aging super fast - dies at 1.5 year (can’t age with item) - Art: Cub and Teen versions, Cub Newborn and Young slightly altered lineart.
Amelia - lacking limbs - dies at 2 months - Art: 1 Cub version
Cebocephaly - LINK - eyes close together, squished face - dies at 2 months - Art: 1 Cub version
Noseless - LINK dies at 2 months - Art: 1 Cub version

Proteus Syndrome - whole body deformation - game effect: can’t hunt or patrol, can’t be retired into. Health messages through life - dies randomly between 2 to 8 years - Art change: Birth to Adult
Radial Hypoplasia - aka Squitten - causes short legs while hind legs are long. Cannot hunt, patrol etc, just like a Blind lion. Can generate birth message, dies randomly between 1 to 8 years - Art change: Birth to Adult


Minimal art change or not visible


The thought behind those is that those mutations could be caused by breeding to old lionesses or inbreeding via user suggestions

Cross-Eyed - Art change: could be eyes-like decors layered over the lineart, responsive to the actual eye colours - stat penalty - can't be retired into, can hunt or patrol though.

Hybrids


Things are brewing! This is kept spoiler-free.

Primal variants


There's a few more variants designed and named after ancient beasts or latin/greek words, each will have a unique trait or source.

Chimera issue


Chimera is one of most suggested mutations. The issue is that it would require two sets of lion information: Two bases, set of markings each, separate eye colours etc. Sounds like a very serious problem when coding the information - the extra tables have to be coded there, but not show up in normal lions. It is VERY difficult to do that.

Method 1 - code-wise the most complex way, not even sure if possible how I imagine - adjust the lion profile by adding another table if mutation is present to show both genetics - right side is from father, left side from mother, to make it easier just copy 100% of each parent’s looks onto respectable half (unless possible, just have normal bred looks). When bred, this lion would pass only one half of the genetics (randomly picked by script).

Method 2 - easy for coding, fast to implement. Make for example 10 versions of each half show up like Achromia - covering the original picture with a random half on top of the lineart. The genetics and markings show in a normal way on the original art, and the chimera half is just separate and not affecting gameplay. If bred, only the actual information passes, and the chimera half would not.

Method 3 - create a "shadow" lion, hidden on the account, that acts as 2nd set of the Chimerism genetics. While breeding, the script picks one of the two lions, either main or shadow. The "shadow" genetics could be viewable via a special button click. We're probably not able to add another lion info chart on the lion's page just for this mutation.

Summary: We're thinking. It's a lot of work. Not anytime soon. :(





Spoilers


Dorsal Fur - Full design - Added!
Phocomelia - Full design
Progeria - Concepts
Hairless - Concept
Brachycephaly - Concept

Note: I might update this from time to time



This suggestion has 3529 supports and 16 NO supports.



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Edited on 20/12/23 @ 12:50:13 by a Moderator

Mochi (rolling
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Posted on
2019-03-30 14:34:20
Chions when??



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Maplefire RLC (#168468)

Gigachad
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Posted on
2019-05-15 13:34:33
Hello! What about the Manticore mutation? We have Nirah as an NPC, so that he can be the father of the cubs, like the tigons and leopons!
For transmission, it will be possible to make a base and a marking, and it would be great breed only eyes with a horizontal pupil, like a goat. The tail of the scorpion and horns could be the main signs of the mutation of the Manticore, and because it is just a lioness + manticore, it would be possible to remove the wings or leave them only to males.
I think it would be great!



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Aredy1974 (#166030)

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Posted on
2019-06-15 09:10:46
I really wish you would rename "patches" to Mosaic.



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Wolvesofthenight (#101070)

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Posted on
2019-06-15 11:42:37
Please update this! I know theres stuff on here you have implamented... It would be better to see the new stuff in the works now!



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Belia (#175839)

Heavenly
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Posted on
2019-07-17 13:46:00
Heyy, I've been doing special needs (domestic) cat rescue for quite a while so I have a lot of personal experience & knowledge with many of these mutations. I can also provide picture references & some xraysfor them. You'd be surprised how many feral cats manage to survive with deformities, really.

I'd love to share what I know but I'm not sure if I should make a post with all of it or what. And idk if forum posts have a word limit cause i could go on forever lol. For now I'll go to all the suggestion threads with mutations I know and add to those.

Here is a list of mutations I have experience with:
Club feet
Twisted leg syndrome
Cleft palate
Cleft soft palate
Cleft lip
Cerebellar hypoplasia
Swimmer's syndrome
Hydrocephalus
Some craniofacial defects (ex: missing muscles on forehead)
Pectus excatavum
Premature kittens
Congenital hypothyroidism
Micropthalmia
Macropthalmia
Klinefelter syndrome
Uneven facial development
Overbite/underbite
Anisocoria
Malabsorption
Brachycephalic
Polydactyl
Megaesophagus
No eyes/blind
Deaf

I'm probably forgetting some but that's most of them. Hope I can be of help.



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Edited on 17/07/19 @ 13:48:05 by IRL Crazy Catlady (#175839)

Wolvesofthenight (#101070)

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Posted on
2019-07-26 17:43:41
I have experience on the dog side... So wolvden here I come!



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Lady Brightcynder (#136169)

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Posted on
2019-11-07 10:49:30
I was going to suggest curly, so glad to see there's already been support for the idea!



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Dutchess [17/2/23
NRLC] (#93373)

Blessed
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Posted on
2019-12-07 09:24:07
picture of double canines on my cat some years ago (hopefully the picture works!) Looked on google but none of the pictures show it quite as well! :)

right so picture didn't work. I am not skilled with this and really dont know how to put pictures in this game



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Edited on 07/12/19 @ 09:26:33 by Dutchess (#93373)

🥀 (#12402)

Heavenly
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Posted on
2020-01-07 11:19:28
Could new mutations be made using the neutral pose of lioness instead of the resting pose (default)? Most don't care about the "manes/fur" or overgrown fur muties, they want the piebalds and patches 'cause they can be posed. (Please make curly fur mutation using the neutral standing lioness.)



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Edited on 07/01/20 @ 11:21:36 by Zizi 🥀 (#12402)

LuckyFireCat (#195970)

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Posted on
2020-03-02 21:13:35
Yes Polydactle! Wing y limbs, meh. Don’t love it, and I think they only found it in domestic cats so far.



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Jinx (#199440)

Sweetheart
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Posted on
2020-04-30 10:58:55
Is there some possibility that you could have double mutations? Like folded ears and primal fangs or similar pairings.



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Jag♀️ (#122088)

Divine
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Posted on
2020-05-04 16:14:42
Oh my god how have i only just found this. 😍 those possible new lethals honestly look amazing and i can not wait to hopefully get the chance to see them become a part of the game. Keep up the fantastic work guys!



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∙ *ˎ thrones !!
🦎 ˒˙∘ (#134705)

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Posted on
2020-05-14 14:14:19
Uh,, YES.
I love lethal, I can’t wait for these!



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𝐬𝐲𝐳𝐲𝐠
𝐲 🪐 (#170992)

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Posted on
2020-05-29 21:51:40
i don't know if this has been recommended before or not, but... would a fluffy lion / Fluffy Fur/Body mutation be possible? as in, the entire body is just overly fluffy, not just the mane.



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Min Yoongi 🇵🇸 (#191587)

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Posted on
2020-05-30 18:51:09
I recently was looking into phocomelia and I think it would be an interesting lethal :o



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