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2017-09-16 02:31:17
Are you more into mane shapes? Then the Mane Genetics Thread is here for you

Want to check out a particular combo quickly? Use ctrl + f and type its name, or use the "search on site" option if you are using a cellphone :)



Wiki entry about Combo Bases

This began as a way to share theories about possible combinations, but then things got way bigger than expected. A lot of people have invested a lot of currency in the scrying stone to see if we were right about combos, and here is the result :D

But wait... What are combo bases?



When you breed two lions with the right combination of bases, their cubs roll a further, extra chance that can result in a third, new base, a "combo" base. Each combo base has its own requirements, and these bases often ignore the set genetic rules: for example, the Cairngorm combo base (Black Light Solid Special genetics) can be obtained by breeding a Celestial lion (Black Dark Countershaded Special genetics) and a Cocoa lioness (Black Medium Countershaded Rare genetics). Most combo bases can be passed down as long as one parent has it and further requirements are met if there are any, with the exception of Pulsar and Temporal.

*Since the 12th October update, cubs that have triggered the original combo bases - Cairngorm, Citrine, Madagascar or Qahir - have a 50% chance of getting their respective mane color, and these can be inherited like any other mane color!

Right now there are two different types of combo bases: "standard" combos and "factor" combos. Factor ones can be obtined by breeding any of the bases that make up the combo, but standard ones can be obtained by more than one combination of bases that are assembled into two different groups. The combo can trigger as long as the parents have bases that belong to a different combo group (not to be mistaken by the genetic color group).

*Note: While some of the following standard combo tables have been completed, there may be some combinations that remain undiscovered yet.

Standard combos:





Arabica

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Arabica by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black



  • Buttercream

  • Buttermilk






Asiatic

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Asiatic by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Dun

  • Gray



  • Cream

  • White






Black Rose

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Black Rose by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar



  • Jet

  • Obsidian

  • Onyx






Cairngorm

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Cairngorm by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Celestial

  • Ice

  • Sidereal

  • Skyward



  • Cocoa

  • Ethereal

  • Pearl

  • Slate






Citrine

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Citrine by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar

  • Kimanjano

  • Topaz

  • Xanthic



  • Cherry Blossom

  • Fiery

  • Fulvous

  • Sulphur






Cloudburst

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Cloudburst by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Chartreux

  • Korat

  • Maltese






Elysian

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Elisyan by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Ice



  • Divine

  • Ebony






Ember

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Ember by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Blazing

  • Fiery



  • Flint

  • Pewter






Hellebore

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Hellebore by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Lilac



  • Goldenrod

  • Udara






Madagascar

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Madagascar by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Sapela

  • Sepia

  • Shedua

  • Unholy



  • Ivory

  • Nacre

  • Sunset

  • Supernal






Nadir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Nadir by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black Rose

  • Ebony



  • Ardor

  • Hellebore

  • Rhodonite






Pulsar

This base can only be obtained via combo during July, but can be passed down by breeding two Pulsar based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Pulsar by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Arctic



  • Anjeer

  • Blazing

  • Inferno

  • Prune






Qahir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Qahir by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Buff

  • Cameo

  • Hallowed

  • Russet



  • Chartreux

  • Glacial

  • Hematite

  • Opal






Snowflake

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Snowflake by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Arctic

  • Aufeis

  • Frostbitten

  • Glacial

  • Ice






Temporal

This base can only be obtained via combo during October, but can be passed down by breeding two Temporal based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Temporal by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Unholy



  • Bast

  • Sunset




Factor combos:





Gilded

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Gilded by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Anubis



  • Bast



  • Seth






Olive

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Olive by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Caramel



  • Xanthic






Rose Gold

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Rose Gold by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Alabaster



  • Sha



  • Velvet






Soul

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Soul by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Ivory



  • Ebony





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Edited on 19/12/19 @ 03:40:35 by Jingle Bere (#84593)

muttduck (#78)

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2017-09-22 11:48:59
Oh my gosh! I forgot Prune. Prune was one of the original raffle bases, too. I can't remember, but it might have been the very first one, before Cocoa... I wonder if that is our missing Madagascar base? *goes to check*

EDIT: I tried Prune for both Madagascar and Qahir, and didn't get lucky.



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Edited on 22/09/17 @ 11:59:23 by muttduck (#78)

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2017-09-22 11:50:34
Ops, I had totally forgotten that Ice was part of Cairngorm xD



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2017-09-22 12:42:31
Seems like the last Qahir will be another Black Countershaded special to fit the rest... but I'm drawing a blank as to which we haven't tried yet.



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2017-09-22 13:02:27
It's Chartreux!! I have a screen shot of a scry Qahir cub, (Cameo x Chartreux) but not sure where to upload since photobucket changed?



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Edited on 22/09/17 @ 13:05:30 by muttduck (#78)

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2017-09-22 13:04:09
Tried Malt a good 40ish times with no luck, hadn't thought of or tried Chartreux though!



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muttduck (#78)

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2017-09-22 13:05:24
See edit above. :D



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2017-09-22 13:07:52
@muttduck

Chartreux is the last base for Qahir? (I use imgur, it's really neat)



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Lunacy (#42197)

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2017-09-22 13:08:15
Woohoo! Now we're down to 2 unknowns.

I used imgur too



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Edited on 22/09/17 @ 13:09:21 by Lunacy (#42197)

muttduck (#78)

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2017-09-22 13:09:55
Berenos, yes, Chartreux x Cameo just gave Qahir on my 3rd scry attempt.
I will try imgur, to see if I can show the screenshot of the scry.

Edit for the imgur link:
https://imgur.com/mfmtbY8



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Edited on 22/09/17 @ 13:12:24 by muttduck (#78)

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2017-09-22 13:10:45
It cracks me up that the last base we discovered some combos of is the first to be completed

Do you think Lilac could be the last one for Madagascar?



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2017-09-22 13:15:34
So no Maroon :( I feel like it'll likely be another red or cream Countershaded special for Madagascar...

Also for Citrine, has anyone tried Dinar or Champagne? I'm running low so I'll probably have to wait to run more tests and don't wanna duplicate too many lol



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Edited on 22/09/17 @ 13:23:38 by Lunacy (#42197)

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2017-09-22 13:16:32
I tried Maroon for Qahir and Madagascar, and wasn't lucky.

I'm working on Nacarat for Citirne now.

(Edit, Nacarat isn't getting me anywhere.)



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Edited on 22/09/17 @ 13:20:17 by muttduck (#78)

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2017-09-22 13:17:04
Lilac is Black Medium Solid Special, I believe. Tried scrying Lilac with Unholy, nothing happened much. Lots of Titanium. I'll try with Maroon tomorrow after I sell the expiring food :P

Edit: Alright, so not Maroon. My hunch of Teardrop being around somewhere is still strong. It was the last base added before the combos were introduced, after all.



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Edited on 22/09/17 @ 13:18:32 by Berenos (#84593)

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2017-09-23 05:59:33
Has anyone tried Blush Rose or Manakbir?



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2017-09-23 06:17:59
I don't think so, muttduck.



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