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2017-09-16 02:31:17
Are you more into mane shapes? Then the Mane Genetics Thread is here for you

Want to check out a particular combo quickly? Use ctrl + f and type its name, or use the "search on site" option if you are using a cellphone :)



Wiki entry about Combo Bases

This began as a way to share theories about possible combinations, but then things got way bigger than expected. A lot of people have invested a lot of currency in the scrying stone to see if we were right about combos, and here is the result :D

But wait... What are combo bases?



When you breed two lions with the right combination of bases, their cubs roll a further, extra chance that can result in a third, new base, a "combo" base. Each combo base has its own requirements, and these bases often ignore the set genetic rules: for example, the Cairngorm combo base (Black Light Solid Special genetics) can be obtained by breeding a Celestial lion (Black Dark Countershaded Special genetics) and a Cocoa lioness (Black Medium Countershaded Rare genetics). Most combo bases can be passed down as long as one parent has it and further requirements are met if there are any, with the exception of Pulsar and Temporal.

*Since the 12th October update, cubs that have triggered the original combo bases - Cairngorm, Citrine, Madagascar or Qahir - have a 50% chance of getting their respective mane color, and these can be inherited like any other mane color!

Right now there are two different types of combo bases: "standard" combos and "factor" combos. Factor ones can be obtined by breeding any of the bases that make up the combo, but standard ones can be obtained by more than one combination of bases that are assembled into two different groups. The combo can trigger as long as the parents have bases that belong to a different combo group (not to be mistaken by the genetic color group).

*Note: While some of the following standard combo tables have been completed, there may be some combinations that remain undiscovered yet.

Standard combos:





Arabica

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Arabica by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black



  • Buttercream

  • Buttermilk






Asiatic

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Asiatic by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Dun

  • Gray



  • Cream

  • White






Black Rose

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Black Rose by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar



  • Jet

  • Obsidian

  • Onyx






Cairngorm

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Cairngorm by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Celestial

  • Ice

  • Sidereal

  • Skyward



  • Cocoa

  • Ethereal

  • Pearl

  • Slate






Citrine

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Citrine by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar

  • Kimanjano

  • Topaz

  • Xanthic



  • Cherry Blossom

  • Fiery

  • Fulvous

  • Sulphur






Cloudburst

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Cloudburst by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Chartreux

  • Korat

  • Maltese






Elysian

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Elisyan by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Ice



  • Divine

  • Ebony






Ember

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Ember by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Blazing

  • Fiery



  • Flint

  • Pewter






Hellebore

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Hellebore by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Lilac



  • Goldenrod

  • Udara






Madagascar

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Madagascar by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Sapela

  • Sepia

  • Shedua

  • Unholy



  • Ivory

  • Nacre

  • Sunset

  • Supernal






Nadir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Nadir by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black Rose

  • Ebony



  • Ardor

  • Hellebore

  • Rhodonite






Pulsar

This base can only be obtained via combo during July, but can be passed down by breeding two Pulsar based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Pulsar by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Arctic



  • Anjeer

  • Blazing

  • Inferno

  • Prune






Qahir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Qahir by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Buff

  • Cameo

  • Hallowed

  • Russet



  • Chartreux

  • Glacial

  • Hematite

  • Opal






Snowflake

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Snowflake by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Arctic

  • Aufeis

  • Frostbitten

  • Glacial

  • Ice






Temporal

This base can only be obtained via combo during October, but can be passed down by breeding two Temporal based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Temporal by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Unholy



  • Bast

  • Sunset




Factor combos:





Gilded

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Gilded by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Anubis



  • Bast



  • Seth






Olive

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Olive by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Caramel



  • Xanthic






Rose Gold

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Rose Gold by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Alabaster



  • Sha



  • Velvet






Soul

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Soul by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Ivory



  • Ebony





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Edited on 19/12/19 @ 03:40:35 by Jingle Bere (#84593)

muttduck (#78)

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Posted on
2017-09-23 06:26:34
Just tried 30 times each for Manakbir and Blush Rose, using an Unholy stud... nothing.



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2017-09-23 06:33:36
What if the missing base for Madagascar isn't from the red group? Just take a look at Qahir, we were so focused on pink bases we dismissed the ones that were the ones in the end.

What do Ivory, Sunset and Supernal have in common? All I can think of is the "gradient", however subtle it is in Ivory.



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2017-09-23 06:41:41
The last base could either be a very pale one like Ivory, or maybe Ivory is the outlier in this case [like how pale Skyward is vs Ice/Cel/Sid] and it's another fairly dark, warm base with lots of gradient? Has anyone tried Dinar, or Nacre as the last Mad base?



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muttduck (#78)

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2017-09-23 06:51:11
On that train of thought, has anyone tried Anjeer or Inferno?



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2017-09-23 07:00:34
I did try Anjeer and Inferno, but as if they were from the other group to breed Madagascar.

Could one of those be it? Inferno and Anjeer are your best bets to breed a Sunset without another Sunset, you'd think soemone would have stumbled upon a Madagascar in a scrying by now.



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muttduck (#78)

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2017-09-23 07:08:33
But they would be in the same group as Sunset, not opposing, so they probably weren't scried against Unholy, etc. ?



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2017-09-23 07:09:10
You're right



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muttduck (#78)

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2017-09-23 07:30:37
Well... 25 scries for each Anjeer and Inferno, with an Unholy mate, and nothing popped up.



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2017-09-23 07:32:44
I tried with Inferno too, so far no luck. I'm poor again so I'll have to wait for a bit before scyring something else.



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2017-09-23 08:12:35
No luck with UnholyxDinar or Nacre ;D;



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2017-09-23 08:19:02
Could it be Goldenrod maybe? The have been no goldens outside of Citrine so far.



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2017-09-23 08:26:30
Sad no moonstone combos yet. xD


I was gonna say I got Qahir in the scry with russet x glacial but you guys got it already x3



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2017-09-23 08:32:18
Anyone try Teardrop for Madagascar, or Inferno for Citrine?



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2017-09-23 08:52:22
I tried Teardrop for Madagascar, but so far no luck.



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Posted on
2017-09-23 12:45:51
Well, I'm too lazy to think about the bases, but I do have plenty of SB to burn for once. Any bases that need to be tested, feel free to tell me on this thread or over PM!



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