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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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2017-09-16 02:31:17
Are you more into mane shapes? Then the Mane Genetics Thread is here for you

Want to check out a particular combo quickly? Use ctrl + f and type its name, or use the "search on site" option if you are using a cellphone :)



Wiki entry about Combo Bases

This began as a way to share theories about possible combinations, but then things got way bigger than expected. A lot of people have invested a lot of currency in the scrying stone to see if we were right about combos, and here is the result :D

But wait... What are combo bases?



When you breed two lions with the right combination of bases, their cubs roll a further, extra chance that can result in a third, new base, a "combo" base. Each combo base has its own requirements, and these bases often ignore the set genetic rules: for example, the Cairngorm combo base (Black Light Solid Special genetics) can be obtained by breeding a Celestial lion (Black Dark Countershaded Special genetics) and a Cocoa lioness (Black Medium Countershaded Rare genetics). Most combo bases can be passed down as long as one parent has it and further requirements are met if there are any, with the exception of Pulsar and Temporal.

*Since the 12th October update, cubs that have triggered the original combo bases - Cairngorm, Citrine, Madagascar or Qahir - have a 50% chance of getting their respective mane color, and these can be inherited like any other mane color!

Right now there are two different types of combo bases: "standard" combos and "factor" combos. Factor ones can be obtined by breeding any of the bases that make up the combo, but standard ones can be obtained by more than one combination of bases that are assembled into two different groups. The combo can trigger as long as the parents have bases that belong to a different combo group (not to be mistaken by the genetic color group).

*Note: While some of the following standard combo tables have been completed, there may be some combinations that remain undiscovered yet.

Standard combos:





Arabica

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Arabica by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black



  • Buttercream

  • Buttermilk






Asiatic

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Asiatic by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Dun

  • Gray



  • Cream

  • White






Black Rose

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Black Rose by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar



  • Jet

  • Obsidian

  • Onyx






Cairngorm

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Cairngorm by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Celestial

  • Ice

  • Sidereal

  • Skyward



  • Cocoa

  • Ethereal

  • Pearl

  • Slate






Citrine

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Citrine by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar

  • Kimanjano

  • Topaz

  • Xanthic



  • Cherry Blossom

  • Fiery

  • Fulvous

  • Sulphur






Cloudburst

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Cloudburst by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Chartreux

  • Korat

  • Maltese






Elysian

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Elisyan by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Ice



  • Divine

  • Ebony






Ember

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Ember by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Blazing

  • Fiery



  • Flint

  • Pewter






Hellebore

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Hellebore by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Lilac



  • Goldenrod

  • Udara






Madagascar

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Madagascar by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Sapela

  • Sepia

  • Shedua

  • Unholy



  • Ivory

  • Nacre

  • Sunset

  • Supernal






Nadir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Nadir by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black Rose

  • Ebony



  • Ardor

  • Hellebore

  • Rhodonite






Pulsar

This base can only be obtained via combo during July, but can be passed down by breeding two Pulsar based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Pulsar by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Arctic



  • Anjeer

  • Blazing

  • Inferno

  • Prune






Qahir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Qahir by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Buff

  • Cameo

  • Hallowed

  • Russet



  • Chartreux

  • Glacial

  • Hematite

  • Opal






Snowflake

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Snowflake by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Arctic

  • Aufeis

  • Frostbitten

  • Glacial

  • Ice






Temporal

This base can only be obtained via combo during October, but can be passed down by breeding two Temporal based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Temporal by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Unholy



  • Bast

  • Sunset




Factor combos:





Gilded

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Gilded by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Anubis



  • Bast



  • Seth






Olive

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Olive by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Caramel



  • Xanthic






Rose Gold

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Rose Gold by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Alabaster



  • Sha



  • Velvet






Soul

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Soul by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Ivory



  • Ebony





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Edited on 19/12/19 @ 03:40:35 by Jingle Bere (#84593)

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2018-01-16 04:01:14
Yeah I know...it just seemed like their answer was implying that that was the only way for them to pass. Lol things are so unclear.



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Grovyle (#94985)

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2018-01-16 04:09:00
Since Baroness and Xylax have explicitly confirmed that combo x combo can pass combo, maybe Berenos could edit the bold part at the top to include it? That would make things clearer, I reckon.



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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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2018-01-16 04:10:08
@Grovyle

When did they confirm it? I missed it :o



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Grovyle (#94985)

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2018-01-16 04:16:03
"It is possible to OBTAIN from combo breeding but they also can be bred when Madagascar x Madagascar requirements are met.

So Madagascar x Madagascar has a chance to pass Madagascar.

I can understand that being a little confusing, and I am very sorry you were given conflicting information.

I know the staff name is blocked, but this is the Admin Baroness and the information in this ticket is coming direct from me and Xylax."

This can also be found on page 27 of this thread and is directly copied from the ticket I issued. When I come home later today I can take a screenshot as proof, if you'd like that better.



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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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2018-01-16 04:18:12
@Grovyle

Thank you, and I apologize for not keeping up with it as I should. I'm with a cold and sometimes I read things without really understanding what they are



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Grovyle (#94985)

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2018-01-16 04:18:39
https://www.lioden.com/topic.php?id=304429297044
In the bug thread I made there's a screenshot and more info about everything.



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Grovyle (#94985)

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2018-01-16 04:21:55
Thanks a lot for updating the note! I think that will help clearing up the confusion.
I hope you get better soon.



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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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2018-01-16 04:24:42
Thank you



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2018-01-16 07:22:51
Thank you for posting the bug report and all the links. Now I feel much better about kinging my Madagascar in future. I love all the combo bases!



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Nureyev πŸ¦† (#30674)


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2018-01-23 13:36:26
So has *anyone* gotten a second gen combo base? I've been looking through combo stud offspring lists and wondering. Surely, if no one has by now, the code must be broken?



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muttduck (#78)

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2018-01-23 17:31:15
Both of my Cairngorm girls are bred to my Ice stud. It's my first chance to breed them since the bug report.



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Desolace, Colorbomb (#36375)

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2018-01-31 01:22:44
I think I might retire my Madagascar boy. He hasnt passed a maddy base at all and Ive used every base needed. My special based girls are dying off and still no maddy.

If there is a bug, and they dont fix it, it was a waste of time to offer it as a base to begin with.

Since this thread came out I get 0 stud requests because people know it wont pass.

Just to let you know HOW long Ive had this king? Ive stat replaced him 3 times. In those 3 times and all the breedings:

NO MADAGASCAR



I think i would rather have a sunset king. They actually pass their base!



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Celebii [Clean Nat
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2018-01-31 01:32:19
Maybe add that to the bug thread? https://www.lioden.com/topic.php?id=304429297044
Honestly I don't know why it hasn't been forwarded yet, Baroness is definitely aware of the issue and it would be an easy fix. But if more people added to it, especially the fact that it doesn't seem to pass at all, it would possibly be forwarded faster?



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Desolace, Colorbomb (#36375)

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2018-01-31 01:44:15
I went ahead and posted on the bug report about it. Im very frustrated, so I hope it doesnt sound too rude.

5 months Maddy has been out, I got my boy about 2 weeks after it was released.

0 Maddies from ANY of his lionesses. I keep about 10 or so with special bases. I have not has a sunset or sepia to experiment with, but it should not matter considering Im using a majority of the others:

Sapela

Shedua

Unholy

Ivory

Nacre

Supernal

Perhaps if more people posted on the bug report they would get more attention??



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Edited on 31/01/18 @ 01:45:50 by Gruth, Madagascar King! πŸ‰ (#36375)

Nureyev πŸ¦† (#30674)


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Posted on
2018-01-31 02:38:23
I've posted as well. I have a bad feeling that we've been trying in vain all these months with broken code. Not cool at all.



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