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_ (#125883)

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2019-02-03 18:23:10

My heart is set on this.
It just makes sense to add this title, along with "Achillean," because "Sapphic" is already in the game. "We don't need gay label titles" just... isn't relevant anymore

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The "Sapphic" title exists. It describes a female who's into females. I like it. It was a kind thing to add to the game~
The "Achillean" title should exist. It describes a male who's into males. I like it. It'd be a kind thing to add to the game~

"Diamoric" is a similar term to those two. It "describe[s] relationships that are neither gay nor straight because of the involvement of at least one nonbinary person [ for example, an NB person + a man in a relationship wouldn't fit as either because their genders are neither "opposite" nor "the same"]. It can also be used for nonbinary individuals who are neither gay nor straight and want to highlight this, or their prioritization of relationships with nonbinary people." (Source)
In case you are confused or unaware about what a nonbinary person is, please click here before asking about it.
How would it be unlocked? I was thinking that doing either of the criteria for unlocking "Sapphic" and "Achillean" would unlock it; whichever you do first unlocks it! I value input about how to unlock it, because I'm not sure about this one! Click to see some other thoughts I had, and feel free to comment on them.

Further clarification about the all of the terms here!

"Diamoric" -- or a related term* -- can be implemented as a title that one can adopt, alongside Sapphic and (hopefully) Achillean!
It'd be a kind thing to add to the game~


If you don't support for reasons other than the ones I already countered in the post below, lemme know! I want to work to make this suggestion optimal~

If you have any questions, see this

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*Alternatives to Diamoric: Cypric, Adonian/Adonic, Enbian. The last one is the only one that doesn't have a Greek theme to it




This suggestion has 462 supports and 120 NO supports.



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Edited on 17/03/19 @ 19:46:18 by _ (#125883)

Luxaeus [hiatus] (#80752)


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2019-03-17 14:53:53
You could always just ignore this particular thread. And let others educate themselves about the subject.



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_ (#125883)

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2019-03-17 14:55:45
Difficult when my heart was kind of set on having it in the game, but I can try that



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Bravo (#157216)


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2019-03-17 15:10:23
You're not a mod. You can't tell people you disagree with to leave instead of giving feedback for a suggested change to a game we both play. I was trying to be sympathetic to you and your opinions, but clearly you're clearly not going to extend me the same courtesy.

If this is something you really believe in, then you could have just ignored me, the one person who said anything vaguely critical. Instead you're basically telling me to shut up after two posts when you have no authority to silence other users. You don't want a discussion or feedback, which is the whole point of this board. If that's the case, then yes, you should delete the thread.



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🐊 Mutt (#3901)

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2019-03-17 15:25:52
"@Mutt, I just explained why. You can take me as an example. I identify as female, have female biology, and have never thought of myself as anything else, but I have masculine interests, an androgynous style of dress, and I'm going into a male-dominated field. People today might recognize this as GNC, even if I don't use that label personally. However, there are people out there who would tell me I'm transmasc, non-binary, or even that I'm trans--I just haven't realized it yet. Instead of broadening our ideas of what men and women are allowed to do, we're creating separate categories for people who don't conform to gender stereotypes and encouraging them to use these labels. Do you see why someone might have a problem with this?"


?? what? How is this making categories? You identify as female, I identify as non-binary, so why is it that much trouble to have a non-binary title?

I see no problem at all



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Kaycee 🐾 (#116309)

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2019-03-17 15:40:00
Exactly. Just because some people say that you have to be nonbinary/trans if you do certain things, but you aren't, doesn't mean that some people aren't nb???

And Elliott, I'm really sorry. This post gave me a lot of hope tbh, and your message to me when I was unsure helped make me more comfortable claiming my identity instead of staying silent. Please don't give up on this just cause it's not something that enough people are comfortable with yet. Wouldn't you be upset if someone else advocating for something lgbt gave up? I get the feeling you'd be messaging them and trying to convince them they are doing the right thing, and the backlash is just because some people are a bit closed minded or have false info. Don't give up, I and a lot of other people need this in our lives.



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_ (#125883)

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2019-03-17 15:50:21
@Meb

Okay, there will be some people who try to slap a label on you. That's not right regardless of whether you're pro- or anti- trans people. You can validly be a female who likes to express androgynously and likes masculine things.

This post isn't about me slapping labels onto you or anybody else. It's so that people who may want the NB labels can have the choice to adopt them

I apologize for snapping at you earlier. I've been dealing with shit, so I've been more sensitive than usual. That's not an excuse, it's an explanation so that you understand that it wasn't 100% your fault.



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Edited on 17/03/19 @ 15:54:41 by - (#125883)

Frecklespark (#152340)


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2019-03-17 16:51:12
I just came back from church (my mother forces me to go, since I am unfortunately still a minor). Half the sermon was a bunch of transphobic, homophobic CRAP. I’m a biromantic ace, and there wasn’t really anything against aces, but I know Wonderful bi, gay, and trans people, and I really want to rant somewhere.
I saw there was 89 no supports, and I legit felt like crying. What. Why?
Did any of y’all grow up with homo/transphobic parents?



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Kaycee 🐾 (#116309)

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2019-03-17 16:57:42
Yes, actually! My mom isn't specifically abusive or anything, but she rants all the time about everything she can, from racial sensitivity being silly to trans people being misled/evil and gays being sinful and disgusting. I'm not allowed to talk about anything non-straight, and have to listen to everything without comment unless I want her disgust. She says that if I ever do end up with someone who isn't a cis male, my partner won't be allowed to visit, or be talked about in her home. I know it's not bad, especially when I have so many friends who have parents where it would be dangerous for them to know, but... *shrug* Idk



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Edited on 17/03/19 @ 16:59:12 by Kaycee 🐾 (#116309)

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2019-03-17 17:02:05
I’m gay, and I have a non-binary friend. I support this because I want it for them, and others so they can feel more comfortable



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Frecklespark (#152340)


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2019-03-17 17:02:27
Argh. I feel you. Whenever my mom starts her homophobic rants, my sisters just zone out. I can’t, I get too angry. My mom doesn’t know we aren’t heteronormative crusaders like her and Dad.



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_ (#125883)

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2019-03-17 17:03:40
If it makes you feel better, @Vorcaust, I can confirm that a portion of the No Supports are simply because the people don't like me, and not out of actual enbyphobia



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Edited on 17/03/19 @ 18:29:04 by _ (#125883)

Frecklespark (#152340)


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2019-03-17 17:05:36
Oh. That’s not good, but it’s better than the alternative :’)



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🐊 Mutt (#3901)

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2019-03-17 18:24:05
nvm im blind


i really dont want to start arguments or make people mad :s
i just really don't understand all the negativity towards this idea.



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Edited on 17/03/19 @ 18:34:02 by 🐊 Mutt (#3901)

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2019-03-17 18:28:10
Blocked you, I think



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Luka (#130783)

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2019-03-17 18:53:22
So, reading through all the comments I've just seen a lot of people getting angry when others choose not to support this. I personally do not support. Is it because I dislike LGBTQ+ people? No. Is it because I grew up in a homophobic atmosphere? No. It's actually none of those things because neither are true. I have a lot of LGBTQ+ friends and my parents aren't homophobic, but I personally don't agree with the life style and because I don't I will hit the 'no support' button. I don't expect anyone to agree with me, it's fine if you don't and I'll respectful agree to disagree. I just also think that not everything has to be about sexuality, why does it seem that it has to be brought in to everything? Can't we just play the SIM GAME and leave sexuality out of it? Honestly, I'm tired of seeing and hearing about it every time I turn around. Yes, I know what you're gonna say 'if you don't like or agree then just don't come onto the thread. No one asked your opinion', but putting this on a suggestion thread that allows others to express there support or lack of for a certain suggestion IS asking for my opinion and I WILL share it because I have just as much right to as everyone else. I just don't think any of this is necessary because why does the label even matter? It shouldn't...



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