support for @TheOakWoods idea of anti wishlist
it wouldnt cause debate about whats explicit and whats not, you can just add things to it no questions asked. i think the debate of whats triggering and what isnt is an important thing to be discussed, however with something like an anti wishlist feature, users can choose what they want and dont want to see based on their personal preferences.

making lioden more accessible for those with triggers isn't going to overhaul the site as child friendly or disney-ify it. you still have to be 16+ to play and there will still be dark themes, but it will be more user friendly to those who are sensitive. if you aren't affected by disturbing imagery then you can just keep playing as normal.

+ its perfectly reasonable to take coding difficulty into consideration... even if you're not the one doing it. the mods and lioden team are people, not computers, they work hard to ensure all players have a nice experience in game. its important to think of work effort when suggesting game elements because its taken highly into thought when mods go reading through the suggestion forums to see which to reject and which to greenlight. thats why ppl shouldnt go around suggesting chimeras and posed mutations, etc..
i think a lot of the time some users take the mod team for granted. without their hard work and dedication, lioden would be a fraction of what it is today. just bc we don't do the hard labor behind the scenes doesn't mean we shouldn't care about it

even if we arent censoring gory decors i think a lethal art toggle should be implemented regardless, since we have a toggle for the pregnant lioness poses.

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I support. Even though I'm a heavy advocate of "don't like, don't look" a good majority of the time, and I haven't yet been bothered by much on this site (barring the ticks, those suck), I still think some sort of toggle to help block potentially triggering images could help this site greatly. Some people just want to play a lion sim and there's no point in triggering them via various decor/mutations if there's a way to block the imagery, which I'm sure there is.

Yes, this may be a 16+ site and one that likes to keep a fair amount of realism to it, but that doesn't mean stuff can't be censored. I think some of you forget this suggestion is for a toggle, meaning if you don't want anything censored, you don't have to have it censored. And that's not to mention that this is one of the best options to help people onsite to avoid their triggers, since some would even think it should be removed altogether, and sometimes you can be caught by surprise. It's not like you get a trigger warning going into various shops like "Hey! There's decor featuring dead animals, parasites, etc. in this shop!" (If we can't have censoring, maybe we should get more trigger warnings.)

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staff redirected a similar thread (toggle to hide lethal art) back to this one, so bumping to bring it back esp now that we already have the coding in place :)

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As long as a decor/mutation toggle would work like the marking toggle: ie. I can decide individually on every decor and mutation, then it now makes perfect sense to add this to the current censor.

I still disagree with a wholesale "possible triggers on/off" toggle. Because I still don't see how anyone could ever decide what is distressing to whom. Idk, maybe locusts just freak someone out..

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yeah i think this would likely fall underneath the marking toggle. the thread itself is over a year old, so the mechanics proposed are pretty outdated

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yeah now that we can toggle individual art files instead of having to try to determine what needs a toggle and what doesn't this suggestion is definitely stronger than before

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On the fence about this, on one hand yes it would be nice for the people who need it, but lioden is a 16+ breeding game, it's dark. Like how one explore counter is a cub literally getting taken away by a vulture, it's not gonna be all fine and dandy.
Sorry if I came off as rude or harsh, I'm not that good at explaining stuff rip

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I've supported this before, and I'm bumping it because October's here, along with our annual Halloween decor - some of which is very gory and/or disturbing. Expanding the Marking Censor to include decor would be very appreciated!

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Im just gonna say this will Probibly never happen, coding all of it would be a mess and almost impossible plus it would ruin some of the game experience, sense this is a 16 plus game i think everyone should be old enough not to get insanely freaked out about some gore ect most of the encounters have gore/blood/disturbing scenes it would ruin events and breeding.

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Heavy rain (#212246) - There’s already similar features for other things on the site: there’s a toggle to turn off your ability to see Custom Decor, there’s a toggle to disable Nesting artwork in your own Den, and there’s the Marking Censor that lets you specify any marking on the site, and any lion with that marking will appear as a spoiler box for you.

It wouldn’t be that much more programming to expand the Marking Censor to include Decor and Mutations.

The wording on the OP predates the Marking Censor (implemented May 2020), but the suggestion specifically mentioning expanding the Marking Censor was closed as a duplicate, citing this suggestion.

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Adding on, although late as I was redirected here from my post-

Yeah, we're all 'old enough'. But some people get uncomfortable from really specific things-

Personally I don't mind blood and gore, but maggots /specifically/ make me nauseous and I just wish I could hide the image so I don't see it while browsing the site.
The explore encounters/game messages have text anyway, so it's not like you'd be affecting the gameplay.


I would like to point out that if there was a request for an accessibility like colorblindness or dyslexia, nobody would be saying "Stop being sensitive" or "Just don't play"...
Can't see why anyone would have any huge problem with it, since it would be on the USER's end. It wouldn't affect anyone who didn't touch their settings. Getting huffy about an accessibility modification that doesn't apply to you just makes you look bad. Roll your eyes if you have to, but move on.

Even if you can block images through your browser or some third-party modification, it's much more user friendly to include it in the account settings. I'm fairly computer-savvy, but not everyone feels comfortable tampering with their browser.

Furthermore, I've seen responses to this talking about the coding- First off, I don't have much coding experience. But I don't think half the 'it would be hard to code' posts know what they're talking about, either.
So two quick points on that.

A- as stated by Before and some others, there's already a feature like it so both removing the image and replacing it with a spoiler is already being used- so it's not a completely absurd request.

B- even IF it had to be coded in, it's not like we're asking to replace every image with a different, unique one. So I don't believe it would be a problem in terms of bandwidth or file size.

In conclusion to this textwall- I see no reason not to implement something of the sort. Allowing the user to choose what to hide may be the best option, but perhaps include a default when toggled on and allow them to edit it from there.

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My post got locked and I still think it's very different from this one so I'll comment my post here if someone wants to read it!
Why is it different? Because it also includes encounters, fights and decor icons and it still lets you go to a lion page and see everything without having to see what you are scared of as opposing to just get a message to go back.

"I saw there is already a phobia thread, BUT it is NOT the same as this one. That one received lots of "no supports" because it skips the event entirely. I suggest a phobia toggle that only blocks the image, and not the event.

For example, I have arachnophobia and if I even think about spiders I start to physically itch. Therefore I usually need to avoid the Flood Pit, some events and some decor, and I can't avoid it all because they appear in random explore encounters and in other players' lions' decor. I love Lioden and I really want to keep playing and I would feel so much better if I could play without worrying! That also applies to many people who have fears of snakes, rats, scorpions or feel uneasy with the most "gore" type of decor, like maybe the zombie ones (these are just examples). To be fair, it would also work for something like the February event's encounters that make some people very uncomfortable. I couldn't play it with anyone close to me, I was so embarrassed

The phobia filter would work by blocking the visual part of the encounter/decor/icon, so if I block a spider decor, it won't show if a lion has it equipped and the icon also won't show (just like when our internet is slow and doesn't load the image and shows only the text for the title or maybe some text saying it was blocked). If I block an encounter that has a spider, like the nightmare spider from October's event, it blocks the art and I would just see the background or maybe the text again, but the encounter would still happen in the same way!

Please support this, it would make so many people feel better playing this. Please be empathetic and keep on mind not all people want or have the strength to face their fears and shouldn't be forced to. We should be able to play a game we love without being uncomfortable.

If you don't support this, please say why. And know that this wouldn't change AT ALL the gameplay and it would only affect the person who blocked the decor/encounter/icon.

Thank you for the attention."

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Full Disclosure: Nothing on Lioden triggers my phobias or PTSD. Some things I am uncomfortable with, however. Tl;dr at the end.


I'm all for users taking control within their internet experience and curating their online environment. It's a much more reasonable solution to have user-end controls and toggles than requests which ask for these themes others might enjoy to be removed outright.

Why is this important then, if I'm an advocate of controlling your experience? After all, you could just not participate, right?

By giving users the tools to help curate their online environment, you increase the audience that can take part in your product. In this case, Lioden. Lioden is a product, and having an audience is important.

Twitter, Tumblr and many of the sites that users on here may frequent include a blocked words list. Consider this like a blocked words list. Users may wish to block political keywords, or words relating to injury. Blocked words lists are a back end, user-specific feature that users are not required to engage with. It's optional, but it can improve your experience by helping you avoid things that you know are upsetting.

A lot of people in these comments are talking about people taking control of their triggers and stepping away or just not playing if they have an issue, and that's really not the way to go about it. Giving people the ability to block certain things from their experience is taking control. They are making a decision to control an aspect of their user-end experience so they can engage normally. That's what taking control is.

It doesn't impact those who don't use it.

For those commenting on who gets to decide what is and isn't sensitive: If you aren't bothered, then it's not something you need to worry about.

It's entirely possible that if this were added, the mods could create a topic where users can comment on what they'd like to see added outside of the usual things that squick the average person - excessive gore and shocking imagery, spiders, scorpions and snakes, for instance. Those comments that are parroted often could be added.

This also isn't about being child-friendly, or if it doesn't affect you. Please don't downplay these things or conflate them with being child-related concerns, or that people here may not live lives as wild and crazy as yours. There's adults in this thread who are communicating with you in a mature manner about their own triggers and what bothers them. I come from a family of military personnel and hunters and even I can understand why they're asking for these things.

I don't particularly have any triggers that Lioden hits - though there's a particularly gross, scuzzy looking lioness who makes me frown when I see her dialog in explore during May - but I can see the value in giving your fellow internet peers the tools to be comfortable. I'd love if my girlfriend could block scorpion imagery. We have to deal with them enough here in the desert for real. It'd be cool if she didn't have to deal with them online too. There's been numerous times I've heard an audible response from her over having a scorpion suddenly shoved on her screen without warning.

It's also horribly unfair to say players who don't like the imagery in an event should sit it out. I don't like seeing animals chopped the fuck up but March is my birth month and I love the apps and wearable decors during that month. It doesn't bother me enough to block it, but if it did, should I be forced to sit it out? What about Halloween, arguably one of the most popular events on the site? Should people just not get to have Halloween decors and apps because they're scared of spiders?

It's a bit of an unreasonable escalation, don't you think?


tl;dr - if you aren't affected and don't have triggers, this won't affect you, as it's an optional feature. denying others the ability to play comfortably and participate just because it's not relevant to you isn't very cash money. this wouldn't impact your experience.


Edited for multiple spelling and gramatical errors.

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I created this thread that provides a solution for this! Please check it out!

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Supporting as the thread I was supporting was locked for duplication and we were directed here. ♥
I'll just copy & paste what I wrote there;

"Supported as we have a marking censor, so a decor censor shouldn't be out of the question.

I used to have the Healing Wounds [Maggots] blocked via a browser add-on on my old computer, as I cannot stand the sight of maggots for very specific reasons. I'll have to re-block them on this one, but the option to do it via an in-game blocker would be nice."

If it worked like the marking censor we currently have that'd be great.

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