Posted by Bringing Back/Ressurect Old Kings

klutz [full vit
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2019-10-31 15:37:48
I understand that this might be a controversial suggestion, but I've got a few ideas on how this would world nicely.

Why this MIGHT be a good idea?

1. It allows people to take breaks from their projects without feeling stressed about it, and they're able to continue from right where they left off. It would honestly relieve a lot of stress, and you wouldn't have to worry about needing to get a clone in order to take a break. Your overall experience of the game would be better, you can fall back and just take a break without ruining any progress you've made.

2. It might just be that you miss one of your old kings for whatever reason. I think it should definitely be possible to bring the king back! There would of course be reasonable restrictions, and fees to bypass some of the restrictions.

3. You might have a perfect lioness(s) in your pride that you want to breed with king in your dynasty. (From #87017)

If you can think of any more reasons, let me know! I'm happy to add them to the list.

How can this be added to the game in a way that would be safe for the economy?

I had a few ideas, but after talking about it with a few friends, I think this would be my best idea. Basically, it would be like normal retirement, except with an additional fee of 15 GB to bring back a dynasty king. You STILL have to pay the 10 GB forced retirement fee if your king is under 15. If you are on a retirement cooldown, you STILL have to pay the 15 retirement fee. If all these apply to you, it would cost a total of 40 GB for you to bring back an old king.

If your king is 15 years of age, there is no retirement fee, it's free. If you wanted to bring an old king back, it would only cost 15 GB, no other fees.

There are two ways that I found work best for my next idea.

When bringing back a king, I think it might be an unfair advantage to have his mutation and heritage, too. A way that we can get around that is by having a chosen heir in replacement for the king's heritage, and would replace the king's mutation too. You'd be bringing back an old king's APPEARANCE on CHOSEN HEIR'S heritage, mutation AND STATS.

Another way we can deal with this is by simply using the CHOSEN HEIR'S heritage AND STATS with the old king's APPEARANCE, and wiping the mutation if there is one from the heir cub/old king. This would ONLY happen when bringing old kings back from your dynasty. After this, you can mut rep like normal- but you'd have to pay the retirement + cooldown bypass fee.


Restrictions? These are just ideas, and do not have to be added to the game.

-When bringing back an old king, they could be aged up right to 8. 'The experience has aged your heir- he is 8 years old upon taking the throne' (Agryo #70050's way to put it) or something similar might do as well!

If you have any more ideas, again, please let me know! If you do not support this, I'd love to hear why- either in PM's or here!




This suggestion has 315 supports and 72 NO supports.



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Edited on 31/10/19 @ 15:53:11 by ✦ Lrxx [Full Vit Blazing] (#158935)

Jacimagicwhitedeer (#87017)

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Posted on
2019-11-01 04:42:55
@ Agryo [Project] (#70050) i appologize if i missed that in the in the main thread.




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klutz [full vit
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2019-11-01 06:11:19
It’s all good! I just thought it would’ve already been implied so I never went in detail about how you should be able to pick! ^^



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Jacimagicwhitedeer (#87017)

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2019-11-01 08:05:46
@ Lrxx [full vit blazing] # 158935

Could you please add to the main post that you would be able to choose the king you bring back?



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klutz [full vit
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2019-11-01 08:07:51
I believe it’s already implied! When you king a lion, it’s not like your heir is randomly chosen already.



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Jacimagicwhitedeer (#87017)

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2019-11-01 08:09:28
That is true.

I really hope this idea gets added to the game.

It would be a good way to bring back a king while you still enjoy lioden.



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💀 Maladi {Jedi}
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2019-11-01 16:52:45
I really hate the idea that an HEIR'S mutation would be whiped upon choosing a dynasty king :/ that just feels like an arbitrary, asinine way to squeeze every last penny out of the common player. 15 GB just to get an old king and then another 25 to get it with x mutation? Nah. If it's already going to be a 15 gb fee to get the king back, HEIR'S mutation / heritage / stats should ALL stay, just like with a normal replacement. Otherwise I like the idea, but that's a huge hitch that I just can't get behind, so no support for now.



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Robin (BLM) - Gen4
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Posted on
2019-11-01 16:54:07
I think you misread it. The heir's mutation would be used, at least in the first option.



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Edited on 01/11/19 @ 16:54:44 by R ♥ Modjockey (#171993)

klutz [full vit
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2019-11-01 16:55:59
I can understand that, but again, it is only a proposal. I listed two ways of doing it. I’m sure they’d have a debate on whichever works best for the game and the community when choosing between the decision.



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💀 Maladi {Jedi}
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2019-11-01 17:03:54
I read just fine, but even the insinuation that the heirs mutation could be wiped is... I don't know the right word, annoying maybe? What's the benefit for this happening? What great horror are you keeping at bay by forcing the heir to lose his mutations? People have to wait another 3 months or she'll out even MORE money to get their mutie replacement? Because....? Most older kings would have no horrible gain from instantly having a new mutation. They still have old bases, old markings, etc. I just see no reason why it should even be a suggestion.



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Robin (BLM) - Gen4
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Posted on
2019-11-01 17:27:13
That is a fair point



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klutz [full-vit
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Posted on
2019-11-01 17:32:40
I put it second rather than first for a reason. If you are no supporting this suggestion because of one of the proposal, I can understand that. If you think about it, the first option would seem to be the easiest to add and most favourable by the community as well. The main point of this suggestion is for kings to come back, and I’ve proposed two ways to add it. My personal preference would be the first, but again, it wouldn’t be my decision to choose which one is added. I can imagine it being a poll or something when it comes to thinking about which option is going to be added.

But either way, thank you for sharing your opinion! <3 It does seem to me so far that most people prefer option one, my preference as well. I’m hoping that IF this ever gets added, it comes with the chosen heir’s mutation as well. I feel like without, it would be more difficult to code anyways.



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Posted on
2019-11-01 21:17:31
I definitely support this! I have found myself missing one of my past kings a lot lately, I can't even remember what he looked like and it would be cool to be able to bring him back.



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🐅 Tiger | FROZEN (#181564)


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Posted on
2019-11-01 21:29:39
i like this idea! i know ill be sad when my king dies. and considering id like to keep his mane, heritage, and mutation, thats gonna be hard even mut replacing.. or way more expensive over paying 15 gb to revive.



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The Lurking Cryptid (#151436)

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Posted on
2019-11-02 13:58:45
I like this idea!



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Vetiver [Main] (#174295)


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Posted on
2019-11-03 05:16:01
This is a really nice idea, and it feels like it adds longevity to lions we spend a lot of time, emotion and, yes, money to create. With only two accounts active, and thus only two kings, it's hard not to miss the ones we loved when we move on to new ideas. I think this idea, if implemented, would add more long-term value to expensive markings and genetics, as well as making the idea of a spiritual dynasty more weighty.

There could even be a tie-in to November's events in some way, since this month's theme is all about spiritualism and resurrection/communion with the dead. Maybe, instead of a full kingship, there could be a November-only piety or alter perk that allowed your present king to 'channel the spirit of your old king for one night,' aka for one breeding, giving a small chance that one or more cubs in the litter inherit from the dead king instead of your current one. It's just an idea, but your topic and this month's theme got me thinking.

Regardless of my rambles, I completely support your suggestion as-is and am glad you posted it.



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